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No. GTFO if you don't like it.

Yea screw having weapon variety. Even though it's still the strongest shotgun for pve, it should be rebuffed. While we are at it lets give it white nail, box breathing and a 15 mag

I remember coming up with this idea as a nerf suggestion on the forums a few weeks ago, I don't know if they got it from me, but I'm glad they did it anyway. That's the perfect nerf for the ep shotgun, it cuts a little bit of it's dps against bosses but doesn't affect majors as they should be dead in three to four shots.

No, shoot 3 times and melee again to reset the cool down. How is that so hard for you? Its not even a nerf, it did nothing but add an extra .5 seconds to the damage

Im with you man, I totally agree. I didn't even know it was getting nerfed. Wtf

I mean considering It feels like the only viable secondary for any content in the game, I understand why they changed It. The nerf should stay, that way It provokes more weapon variety in that slot.

Just use merciless. It does a better job then ikelos. I Slap on well of radiance and lunafaction boots and bam. Swiss cheese

Who cares how long you spent? Just because you like it doesn't mean it's best for the game. EXOTICS should be the kings of their classes, not some random shotgun being literally 50% better (or more) than literally every other option (except Merciless)

It doesn't "need" to be reversed and you're not going to leave either. Ikelos SG will be obsolete anyway when better shotguns have this perk among other perks. You grinded for early access to the weapon with "special" perks. but if the cycle continues, then every weapon that is "unique" will eventually become a common perk. You should understand this by now.

Needs more nerf

Um no. Players complained for weapon diversity Bungie finally realizing that they need to start nerfing guns to get it.

Everyone complaining about the nerf... I have a question for you. Have you [b][u]actually[/u][/b] used it post nerf? Cos the only real difference is that you have to punch, hold the trigger for 1 second (possibly less), punch, hold the trigger for 1 second (possibly less), rinse and repeat. Did the Last Wish raid 3 times last night, no problem. Essentially it's still the strongest energy weapon in the game, and Bungo's "nerf" pretty much did nothing. So quit whinging and just go use the damn gun already.

Once enough people complain Luna's and Not forgotten probably will be nerfed. Unless we draw a line in the sand here and now. NO MORE NERFS OF GOOD WEAPONS!!!!!! RESTORE IKELLOS!!!!!

Tbh the only reason I can think of why they would nerf it is because before the nerf it out dps practically all the heavy weapons in game (whisper doesnt count in this because its not always Consistant and requires a good aim or a big target) but the one thing i saw everytime i played gambit was primary, ep shotgun, and an exotic heavy same goes for raids and strikes. Its the only constant factor in it all. Granted i understand your frustration about this but i actually think its for its own good. A secondary should never out dps every heavy in game with ease. Also do take in mind that escalation protocol is extremly easy now and practically anyone can get it. There is still plenty and i mean plenty of weapons out there that are actually alot of fun to use. Take riskrunner for example, amazingly fun gun to use but it takes my energy spot, which in gambit automattically puts me at a huge disadvantage. Some things cant be op forever either unless its literally the hardest thing to acquire in game. As for that shotgun it also played on the use it or lose it type of mentality which essentially boils down to use it and win or dont and lose and thats never a good thing in a game such as destiny. People should feel free to use guns they like without having to worry about whats good and what's not. Plain and simple. I can also point out that if they did buff all energy weapons to ep shortie before nerf then dear lord that would make things extremly unbalanced when a sidearm or a hand cannon would out dps a heavy. In peoples eyes its perceived as a pinnicle award. Which begs the question on why? Its definatly not hard to get anyone can grind escalation for it. I went probably 80+ clears of ep before than but I'm not mad about the nerf what so ever because i also already use other weapons that i actually enjoy and dont have to stress about if I'm losing on damage or not.

I agree it's complete b*******. For people who haven't got certain things done such as Petra's run are now at a serious disadvantage. Thats a ridiculous nerf. Woth 3 shots and how fast it shoots youll be up there throwing punches every second. The gun is ass compared to what it was. Congrats everyone who got all there time trials, challenge grinding and seals done before this because the rest of us just got shit on so hard its ridiculous. Whats with the blind side? Ikelos was one of the only good legendary guns for dps especially in the energy slot. I dont understamd what complaint people had and how there were enough people complaining about this to get it merfed out of nowhere. It doesnt affect pvp and anyone can get it plus it only holds 21 shots. I think the rivensbane title shpuld now have a sub lable that says "post ikelos nerf."

This could've been easily resolved if they simply put trench barrel into the perk loot pool. Either way they look at it I'll still use ikelos, its just dumb how they went about making sure it isn't the only shotgun being used in pve and gambit

Just unload half the clip, melee again and unload the rest. I'm not going to stop using it.

There's more to life than one gun. This is what they're telling you and it's very reasonable.