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[quote]Excluding pinnacle quests, we have as many Crucible weapons in the game currently at about the point of The Dark Below of Destiny 1. Same with Vanguard weapons.
Let that sink in. Three years into Destiny 2 compared to around 3-4 months in Destiny 1.
Bungie says they aren't doing anything with vendors. If I had to bet my money, they are either going to reskin a y1 weapon. Notice how I said 'a' and not 'some'. Same with Shaxx. They do the bare minimum. This is a looter shooter. I don't care about Shaxx and Zavalla selling 5 different emblems. Give them weapons!
Remember the vendors we had in D1? Shaxx, Arcite 99-40, and the Vanguard frame? Faction Vendors? Now Shaxx is a glorified emblem vendor. Arcite 99-40 now types on his computer 24/7. Zavalla is also on the same level of Shaxx.
Edit 1: Love how people can actually downvote this topic. Goes to show how far people are up Bungie's ass[/quote]
I understand the frustrations and most are justified especially now but we have confirmation that there is a new expansion not dlc because this is drastically changing the game therefore it is an expansion and the size or rise of iron which despite being smaller than taken king still bigger then warmind and osiris combined. We don't know the details of shadowkeep so all the rants about it or complaints about now when we know change is coming is worthless. Broken record man.
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Are you serious? Or else you’re just a noob who started playing destiny this year and likes to pull BS out of his butt. Now if you like the real world, bungie has quiet a long track record, and every detail about shadow is proof that we’re on another troll avenue, charged €70 a year, for cheap QoL and more downgraded recycled content. But I guess I’m writing to someone who sees the 2.0 gears as content. Have fun with eververse.
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Bro you can't even talk at all. You came to this conversation late as hell and contributed nothing but bs. I didn't say nothing the OP said wasn't true but it is trivial when compared to the new content we are getting. If you are going to start s'hit make sure you go down to all the other people disagreeing with him and saying the same stuff I am. I'm not the only one who thinks this post is a waste of time but if garbage like you wanna roll up talking smack be my guess.
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Bungie has gone on the record and said they will be doing nothing with vendors except armor 2.0
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[quote]Bungie has gone on the record and said they will be doing nothing with vendors except armor 2.0[/quote] We don't know what eris morn or the new stuff will give. We don't even know whats on the rank pass/battle pass. We don't know what is in the raid but most who call themselves pve'rs don't even raid and have a boogus excuse. We don't know what the new pinnacles will be. I can go on forever about how much we don't know you on the other hand can only talk about now or speculation but the fact remains that we have no idea because it is new content. The nerf scares and rants are irrelevant when it isn't out yet. Broken record.
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[quote][quote]Bungie has gone on the record and said they will be doing nothing with vendors except armor 2.0[/quote] We don't know what eris morn or the new stuff will give. We don't even know whats on the rank pass/battle pass. We don't know what is in the raid but most who call themselves pve'rs don't even raid and have a boogus excuse. We don't know what the new pinnacles will be. I can go on forever about how much we don't know you on the other hand can only talk about now or speculation but the fact remains that we have no idea because it is new content. The nerf scares and rants are irrelevant when it isn't out yet. Broken record.[/quote] Clearly you did not read my post. I am talking about vendors. SPECIFICALLY Shaxx and Zavalla. A lot of what you said is 100% wrong. We do know the raid rewards. The raid is an activity. Not a vendor. Just to clarify. It is expected to have loot attached. It still is not a vendor. Just wanted to remind you. The battle pass is also not a vendor. It is a progression system and we know every single reward we are getting out of it. You're right about pinnacles. We don't know, but it's one gun for Vanguard, crucible, and gambit. That's not a refresh. That's bare minimum. We know exactly what eris morn is giving. We've seen the weapons a hell of a lot in the vidocs. Probably have seen all of them but we won't know for sure until launch.
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Ok so what. Shadowkeep is one dlc. All the content thats coming and you are going to crucify them for tower vendors? Broken record and mad to be mad.
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Is given so many hard facts. Replies: so what. No no no the earth isn’t flat dude, whatever so what.
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Those aren't hard facts those are trivial complaints. Get off his nutz bro me and him already agreed to disagree. Trash don't get to come in the conversation late as hell and contribute nothing but insults but hey thats expected from someone like you.
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[quote]Is given so many hard facts. Replies: so what. No no no the earth isn’t flat dude, whatever so what.[/quote] Just goes to show the level of stupidity with some people
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Tower vendors should've been updated when forsaken hit. They got the bare minimum. It's not mad to be mad. I love about everything I've seen in shadowkeep. This is a huge missed opportunity to make activities like strikes and crucible worthwhile. Theres only so many anonymous autumn's (crucible sidearm) I can get and not have it be annoying. And plus we had this in D1! Full vendor refreshes upon a new DLC and resets every week. It's what made going to the tower interesting upon reset.
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[quote]Tower vendors should've been updated when forsaken hit. They got the bare minimum. It's not mad to be mad. I love about everything I've seen in shadowkeep. This is a huge missed opportunity to make activities like strikes and crucible worthwhile. Theres only so many anonymous autumn's (crucible sidearm) I can get and not have it be annoying. And plus we had this in D1! Full vendor refreshes upon a new DLC and resets every week. It's what made going to the tower interesting upon reset.[/quote] They were updated and completely changed when forsaken hit with an occasional returning weapon like service revolver. Rng is rng dude if you haven't realized that yet than what were you playing for 6 yrs? Not all content gets updated. Are we going to raise hell because planet vendors didn't get an update as well? Are we going to get upset about curse of osiris not being refreshed? Did it ever occur to you that there are so many new stuff from new content that the current vendors might not even matter? Broken record.
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Still not a broken record. If anything you are. You fail to see what we had in D1 compared to D2. How were the vendors completely changed when forsaken hit? Shaxx and Zavalla recieved 3 new weapons and either 3 or 4 y1 reskins. Shaxx, Arcite 99-40 and the Vanguard frame in D1 never were RNG with the exception of bounties. There was a complete loot table each DLC with new rolls every week and a way to aquire them. This content should be updated. Strikes and Crucible are a core piece of the game. Period. If they were not, they would've been left behind during D1. There is no sense in grinding for crucible tokens. They're worthless. Planetary vendors including CoO are getting updated though...Armor 2.0. Why would I be mad about that? That's kick ass and a step in the right direction. But it is still off topic. As I stated earlier, this is about Crucible and Vanguard. Not Brother Vance. Not Devrim. Not Sloane. Not Spider. Not Asher. Not Ana Bray. Not Failsafe.
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Reskin is not a viable excuse to discredit especially if it isn't even true the crucible and vanguard vendor gear was completely different. The crucible armor will be 2.0 versions but knowing you you are going cry reskin so I'll cut it short. I already know you are completely unaware but you do know that every raid up to date will have 2.0 armor meaning old raids minus the glitchy one has value. Planet vendors are going to have 2.0, escalation, gambit, and more. My point is the benefits of the game as a WHOLE outway your gripe with crucible and vanguard. We will have to agree to disagree but the complaining is a broken record especially when its purely opinion.
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You are WAAAAAAAY off topic pal. Once again, this is a topic about Crucible and Vanguard WEAPONS. Don't put words in my mouth because like I said before, and I'll say it again even though you won't comprehend, I love Armor 2.0. Everything about it. Period. No ifs ands or buts. Love it. Even if the armor is reskinned because it makes the armor useful and the planetary vendors more lively. It is perfect. I don't know how else to express me liking Armor 2.0. I speak German, French, and Spanish so if you want, I can translate all this for you in a language of your choice. This is not a broken record. This is something that should have been there at the launch of Forsaken aka the expansion that was supposed to change everything. The lack of weapons is not an opinion it is a fact. At the end of Dark Below we had 24 Crucible weapons. Same with the Vanguard. We have 20 excluding pinnacle quests and reskins as of right now and we are going on D2Y3. That's embarrassing.
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[quote]You are WAAAAAAAY off topic pal. Once again, this is a topic about Crucible and Vanguard WEAPONS. Don't put words in my mouth because like I said before, and I'll say it again even though you won't comprehend, I love Armor 2.0. Everything about it. Period. No ifs ands or buts. Love it. Even if the armor is reskinned because it makes the armor useful and the planetary vendors more lively. It is perfect. I don't know how else to express me liking Armor 2.0. I speak German, French, and Spanish so if you want, I can translate all this for you in a language of your choice. This is not a broken record. This is something that should have been there at the launch of Forsaken aka the expansion that was supposed to change everything. The lack of weapons is not an opinion it is a fact. At the end of Dark Below we had 24 Crucible weapons. Same with the Vanguard. We have 20 excluding pinnacle quests and reskins as of right now and we are going on D2Y3. That's embarrassing.[/quote] I never claimed you said anything but you did say something about weapons which I will once again and continue to say YOUR gripe with crucible and vanguard vendors is a very very very very very tiny gripe that doesn't outway the many benefits period. 6-10 possible weapons from those 2 doesn't outway an estimated 30+ from shadowkeep it just doesn't.
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But those "30+" weapons all come from activities that are expected to have their designated loot tables. It's not rocket science. Prison of Elders still had its own loot table and we had vendor refreshes. Archons Forge had its own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. Court of Oryx had its own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. All D1 raids had their own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. Strikes had specific loot and we still had vendor refreshes. Factions had their own specific loot and we still had vendor refreshes. I fail to see your point.
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[quote]But those "30+" weapons all come from activities that are expected to have their designated loot tables. It's not rocket science. Prison of Elders still had its own loot table and we had vendor refreshes. Archons Forge had its own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. Court of Oryx had its own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. All D1 raids had their own loot table and we still had vendor refreshes. Strikes had specific loot and we still had vendor refreshes. Factions had their own specific loot and we still had vendor refreshes. I fail to see your point.[/quote] This isn't D1 so stop referencing it thats like me complaining about all the stuff that is not in D2 that is in D1. 6-10. Versus 30+, how is that hard to understand????? They also said they are going to focus on pvp later in the season so who knows we might get it later but for right now its not. At this point post like this is just misinformation and disruption because we don't know everything about shadowkeep or Y3. Broken record, trivial matters, and rambling backed only by speculation.
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Exactly! It is not D1. They are trying to fix a system that was never broken! I know they said they are going to focus on PvP. But this post is about the loot of Vanguard (Strikes) and Crucible loot tables. Numbers don't lie. All the activities I said above had their own loot table. We DO have a lack of loot. Mostly because all Y1 weapons were not updated, but activities such as strikes and crucible still have a lack of loot and a reason to replay them. They are CORE pieces of the game. Terms or replayability. When was the last time you got a Crucible and/or Vanguard weapon and you were like "Holy crap! I finally got it"? Probably a while ago. Reactions now are "Another Better Devils? Really? Scrap." OR "Wasn't this a year 1 weapon? Oh...it was. That's boring."
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[quote]Exactly! It is not D1. They are trying to fix a system that was never broken! I know they said they are going to focus on PvP. But this post is about the loot of Vanguard (Strikes) and Crucible loot tables. Numbers don't lie. All the activities I said above had their own loot table. We DO have a lack of loot. Mostly because all Y1 weapons were not updated, but activities such as strikes and crucible still have a lack of loot and a reason to replay them. They are CORE pieces of the game. Terms or replayability. When was the last time you got a Crucible and/or Vanguard weapon and you were like "Holy crap! I finally got it"? Probably a while ago. Reactions now are "Another Better Devils? Really? Scrap." OR "Wasn't this a year 1 weapon? Oh...it was. That's boring."[/quote] Again 6-10 possible new if they added for those 2 vendors and if we are being honest 3-6 because they are focusing on on crucible but vanguard will still be your argument. So 3-6 versus 30+. How is 3-6 not trivial when compared to the new stuff? Broken record, trivial, and backed only by speculation and another game.
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If you want to hear a broken record read almost all of the end of your posts champ! I'm not saying scrap all the 30+ for the Vanguard and Crucible weapons. I'm saying they can launch with the other weapons like what happened successfully in D1. I'm not saying only have Crucible and Vanguard weapons. That's only what a moron would say or think I'm saying. Example: Rise of Iron launched. We got new Archon's Forge weapons. We got new raid weapons. Etc. There were still crucible and vanguard refreshes alongside them. Factions too. That's the point you're missing. The word alongside. Not one or the other.
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I disagree with your post and I'm leaving it at that if you want to complain and disregard everyone that disagree than so be it.
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Disagree then. I don't care. Facts and numbers don't lie. I'll leave you with that.
