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Edited by Heroguy64: 7/23/2022 10:52:34 PM
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Matchmaking in PvP is absolutely terrible right now

Decided to hop into a few games of control, turns out that was a terrible idea… Got matched up against a 4-stack, Then a 6-stack, Then another 4-stack, Then a 3-stack and a 2-stack on the same team. All of these games happened back-to-back, and I’m stuck on a team full of solos for every single one of them… Come on Bungie, get your shìt together.

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    Because nobody is playing

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  • [quote]Decided to hop into a few games of control, turns out that was a terrible idea… Got matched up against a 4-stack, Then a 6-stack, Then another 4-stack, Then a 3-stack and a 2-stack on the same team. All of these games happened back-to-back, and I’m stuck on a team full of solos for every single one of them… Come on Bungie, get your shìt together.[/quote] Quite pvp. Not because ur bad but because this games pvp is shite. Terrible connection despite “CBMM”, filled with cheese, Abuse of broken mechanics and 0 match making. You haven’t earned a win or a loss in this game in 2 years. U win or lose because the game decided it was ur turn for it. Every match one team has around a minimum of 70% chance of winning. Some are as bad a “team alpha had a 99% chance of winning”. Games a joke. Play apex , overwatch, warzone, modern warfare or shite even fortnight 🤮 has a better matchmaking and competitive scene. Apex fortnight and warzone all have better connection, better matchmaking and are free. U want pvp in this game to get better, quite. I can’t stress this enough, pvp survives on the casual players like yourself, if all of you stop playing and drop the active player count to 200k or less changes will be made. If your not a streamer or top 10% player bungie doesn’t care about you. Ur a number that’s just gonna come back no matter what. I myself was a pvp main. Top 0.1% of games played, hours spent in pvp, kills deaths and assists. For 7 years destiny was the only game I played. Quite pvp 2 seasons ago for apex and couldn’t believe the difference in quality. Apex absolutely blows destiny out of the water and it’s not even close. My KD and win/lose ratio is significantly worse in apex but despite that I have WAY more fun. When I get a kill or a win it feels earned. I did something right, my position was perfect. My shots were on point. There wasn’t a ridiculous amount of aim assist helping me. There wasn’t some shield cracked dodge jump now full health BS. Or a emergency swap instant kill weapon. Apex has 1 single OHK weapon that u cannot get more ammo for a needs a crit in a game with bullet drop and travel time. I am literally begging you. Quite pvp, tell all ur friends to quite pvp. Play any of the other pvp games I listed if u have an itch for pvp. It’s not good and it’s not gonna get better till u and every other casual realizes the free games are better and leaves. Changes are never made till the player population is below 300,000. It may never get to that point again but so be it. At least if u quite for a better game u will have a better experience. Plus the community is better in apex. Before I got hate mail once a week in destiny minimum, 6 month in Apex not a single piece of hate mail, not even a t-bag.

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  • Terrible now? When has it ever been good?

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  • The thing is Bungie made matchmaking bad on purpose so they could boost up streamers because no one wants to watch a streamer lose... they even admitted this. It’s a bullshit method that they didn’t acknowledge for a long time after they did it. PVP has always been my favorite part of this game, I’m not the best at it but that doesn’t stop me from enjoying it. As it is now, I don’t even bother with. Control is a joke, Iron Banner is a bigger joke. Survival freelance is decent and Trials freelance is decent, especially on sundays. The thing is, if all these guys using modded controllers or cheating with Ring-1 on PC want to play that way then fine, but they need to play against each other. I use a regular controller and I play the game the way it’s intended (not cheating) so why TF would I want to be matched against someone who doesn’t play the way I do? The last time I played Trials I was getting sniped by a guy who didn’t even have to stop moving to land a headshot. And he killed immediately after seeing him. He was faster than anyone else, got to the lanes a full second before I could and the few times I had the drop on him, like I said, he didn’t even stop running when he sniped me. After that I realized I don’t want to play this game that much and I haven’t been.

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    • Pro tip, once the lobby is set you can check who's in it while it loads. If you don't like what you see go to the character change screen. Keep doing that until you get a lobby you like. If everyone does this maybe Bungie gets the hint and gives us more Freelance options.

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      • So bad they had to make 75 matches a requirement for glows. Gotta populate the game modes somehow I guess 😂

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        • Hunters have never been more OP. Lag is an advantage. And lets not forget how awful this team balance system is. Seriously, sod off Bungo.’

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          Ya think?

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        • They listen to their streamers and do as they say then you got your sheep group who listen to the streamers and that's what's lead to the disaster that we currently have now for pvp.

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          • right now ?

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          • [i]always has been[/i]

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          • No it’s not….. there is no match making. Perfect system.

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          • Balancing Teams Is Hard - Bungie

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          • Went into mayhem today, thought it would be fun. Quit the game after 4 years of playing.

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            • Why is respawning so out of control. Enemy players literally spawn on your captured zone

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            • All i want is freelance control so i dont have to play against stacks every single day. If i wanna fight stacks ill play IN A STACK.

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              • Edited by Orange-Cara: 7/24/2022 7:19:50 PM
                Hey everybody, mediocre player here. Matchmaking is just "wrong". The algorythm use a flawed system. There is always a chrome slayer in one of the teams that breaks the balance hard and that nobody can touch. Respawn positions are a joke, maps are too small, and no immunity during spawn animations make 6v6 unfair, and unfun. Most of the maps are unpolished and bad designed for a game this fast. All of this is pretty sad not only because the core experience is fun but also because a good crucible experience would make the loot chase mopre satisfying. Should we also mention desyncs, lounge immunity frames, and a connection system from another century? Also Competitive mode not existant and team balance being so incosistent make it hard to really improve at the game without major investment in offgame souces. As it is crucible is only for entranced player that like to win easy thanks to their insane knowledge of the mechanics and for the tryharder with meta loadouts trying to prove daddy wrong. Thanks for the attention if any, cheers

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                • I used to enjoy hopping in to pvp for a few matches and win or lose I had a good time. The team balancing this season has been so God awful that I just can't be bothered. Instead of taking the highest skill player and putting them on the first team, then the second highest skill player on the second and so on and so forth. The game instead stacks all of the pretty good players on one team, except for one player who ends up having to try and carry their team. Losing is whatever. But when you get matched against a pack of strong players with no team to back you up as well you just get trounced. That doesn't teach anyone how to play better, that's just 1 team winning a dice roll and getting to face roll another team. And it's been like this for months. PvP was the last thing I was thinking I should log in for this season since I already finished everything else I'd like to. But now I just won't bother. On to other games till next expansion again I think.

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                  • I win a game of pvp and if I manage to finish top with the most captures my following games will already have started and am getting killed by supers and heavy before I can even see any players as everyone seems to be invis for the best part of 20-30 seconds.. then it will put me into a game that I get mercied before I even get to fire a bullet in anger. I don’t understand but am guessing it’s to do with the forced 50/50 win loss ratio bungie forces solo players to endure. Only way to counter this is stacking up. I get matched against a team who was on 86 win streak 🤯💩🤯 yes 86 wins in qp control. And bungie put me against them 3 games on the bounce 🤣

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                    • PVP in general is a mess and got worse with cross play. For the 90% of the player base CBMM is terrible. For the streamers and sweats its why they are so easily able to create curb stomping videos that promote the game for free. Free advertising is the main reason why it wont change. Until it effects their financial returns nothing will change. Remember other than Trials pvp content is free.

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                      • I started playing this game 5 months ago and it's always been that way. My first match I played against two guys with over a million kills in Crucible. Insanity. They just don't care. So I don't play pvp anymore, without sbmm. I'm OK with IB, cause of rift, but if they take rift away then I'll play none of it.

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                      • They simply don't care. Who hasn't figured that out by now is, you know, very special. It's blatantly obvious that this game is on life support and all the actual good devs work on their upcoming mobile game to milk an even wider audience. Bungie loves money more than any other company i know. They completely don't give a damn about player enjoyment.

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                      • Edited by OleHead315: 7/24/2022 1:52:50 PM
                        I’d recommend playing other games for pvp, this pvp is beyond fixing. I finally understand now when people say the bottom falling out. You can tell where a game population is by playing. Remember when you was average and competitive earlier this season? Well over time the bottom players left the game, now it reset, now the average player is the bottom. That’s a sign that the overwhelming majority stopped playing.

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                        • Yep. That why my main modes is chaos and momentum control. Matchmaking is in worst condition ever. Why Bungie even touched PvP and weapons balance? All they needed to do, is to transfer all D1 PvP settings into D2 PvP and balance new types of weapons. If we put it in cars experience, it's like if Bungie needed to change tyres, but it ended by disassemble an engine.

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                        • Here's my biggest thing.... If you know you're terrible then stay in regular crucible. Don't go into the competitive modes. And if you do only go in a full fire team that way you aren't being a hinder to the rest of the team.

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                          • Control is atrocious right now, so I’ve just been having fun in Mayhem this week. So refreshing in there

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