And neither is the traveler the Gardener.
It’s a representation of the 2 sides of Paracausality.
Edit: upon further reading, it would make sense that the Traveler and the gardener are the same.
The Winnower uses casual speech. The Witness uses we when speaking of itself.
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Well that would be kinda right but also wrong. The witness when revealing himself in the cutscene said" you have no pieces to play" referring to the game they were playing and we all know the last rule they made was adding part of themselves to the game. The witness isn't the winnower but a avatar or at least one aspect while the traveler is one aspect of the gardener. Aspects and avatars are one piece of something far greater. Its like darkseid, yes you can destroy his many avatars but if he were to come into full being with the anti life equation everything would cease.