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The Winnower is neutral in the game of life. Just like the Darkness. The Witness is using that power for pure evil. The Traveler/The Gardener are the same thing, as indicated by all the lore we have so far. I’d like to think the Gardener is some different supreme being, but all lore indicates it and the Traveler are one in the same.
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  • I noticed how the Winnower describes the Gardner as being dead while also talking like it’s alive and thinking. I’m wondering if the Shell is helping it keep functional while perma wounded.

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  • What “Shell”? Has it been confirmed in lore that the Traveler is like the shell of the Gardener?

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  • Seems that way, from lore and observation. Dreams of Alpha Lupi: The Traveler “But memory is heavy now. It feels like lead and neutronium and electroweak matter fashioned into a moon-sized ball that you must carry as you move. Now, your flight is rapid, your vast mind infected with such dread and toxic doubt that you find yourself afraid of the simple act of thought. “ We’ve seen the open sections, there is nothing there. The big section in the EDZ. Then when Uldren shot at the Shard to get the crystal. It’s looks like concentrate filled with power crystals. It definitely doesn’t look like the body of any living entity. I want to say there is more but I’m at work and don’t have time to trawl Ishtar for it now. I’ll do it later.

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