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[quote]We literally have both.[/quote] Personally, I’d rather scrap seasons and instead just have 1 big yearly DLC, with more attention paid to maintaining and improving existing content (like Crucible and Gambit). In other words: more quality, less quantity. [quote]Why are you asking?[/quote] I was curious to see how the vote would split and it’s an interesting topic of conversation.
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Edited by Necrogen: 7/9/2022 1:05:25 PMIt is not worth doing a yearly expansion with having 3/4 of the year with nothing to do. You need to understand that the community as a whole, [i][b]not yourself[/b][/i] benefits from both as the one was a major failure. People speak of it with rose tinted glasses and don't understand how the first expansions were part of the original narrative but broken up into dlc. I swear people love to just forget how bad we had it and cannot understand how far we've come. It's an interesting topic for discussion? Yeah for people who love to forget what it was like. Do you not remember the trends back when the PS3 and Xbox 360 were out? We had on disk dlc's locked behind a paywall. Bungie was engaging in that practice. And now you're telling me you'd rather them have one expansion per year which will be blasted through in about a month and have the other 11 months of nothing to do? This is why they made seasons. You want to know my opinion? This topic has been beaten to death, is a waste of time, and goes nowhere because many do not understand how bad we've had it. The ones that [i]do[/i] do not prefer the annual DLCs. You think that they would put more time into the DLCs, if that were the case then Destiny 1 would have been a bigger hit than it was.
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Edited by eeriearcade: 7/9/2022 1:41:11 PM[quote]I swear people love to just forget how bad we had it and cannot understand how far we've come.[/quote] People are allowed to have a different opinion to yours without the need for amnesia. I remember the content droughts well and was fine with them. [quote]And now you're telling me you'd rather them have one expansion per year which will be blasted through in about a month and have the other 11 months of nothing to do?[/quote] Yes. If core activities like Crucible and Gambit were better maintained, I’d be happy playing them. If I got bored, I’d play something else. [quote]…because many do not understand how bad we've had it. The ones that [i]do[/i] do not prefer the annual DLCs.[/quote] Bit of an assumption you’re making there. [quote]You think that they would put more time into the DLCs…[/quote] I’d like them to have less quantity of stuff to manage and more focus. It’s just an opinion - I don’t anticipate Bungie scrapping the seasonal model. [quote]…if that were the case then Destiny 1 would have been a bigger hit than it was.[/quote] Seasons and small DLC (The Dark Below, Curse of Osiris etc) haven’t been the most popular parts of D1 or D2, have they?
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Edited by Necrogen: 7/9/2022 1:41:45 PMYea, no kidding people can have different opinions without amnesia. The probalem is that many do. You remember content droughts and LIKED them?! This is why we have both. What you like isnt reflected well with the community. Most give intellectually dishonest, subjective and self serving arguments as to why the dlc model was better. We have both. Theres no point in taking one side away in favor of another. Even hypothetically.
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[quote]You remember content droughts and LIKED them?![/quote] If it’s a choice between drought and seasons / Curse of Osiris type content, I choose drought. [quote]What you like isnt reflected well with the community.[/quote] That’s why I started the poll and discussion, to see how many people felt the same way. The vote shows there are lots of people who feel a similar way. There’s a range of opinions in the replies. What’s genuinely most popular throughout the Destiny community, I have no idea. [quote]Theres no point in taking one side away in favor of another. Even hypothetically.[/quote] Bungie has a habit of spreading themselves too thin. So I’d argue that less content and more focus could raise the quality of the game.
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You're not going to get a good representation on the forums. Again, you're going to get people who say they believe the DLC model is better. Their argumentation once again will be intellectually dishonest. A poll is not going to give you qualitative data. It's only going to give you quantitative. You may like the droughts but again preference is not supported. When we had content droughts in vanilla to, [i][b]more[/b][/i] people hated it and complained. That's why we went to the seasonal model.
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[quote]You're not going to get a good representation on the forums.[/quote] Agreed. [quote]Again, you're going to get people who say they believe the DLC model is better. Their argumentation once again will be intellectually dishonest.[/quote] Why do you say that? [quote]When we had content droughts in vanilla to, [i][b]more[/b][/i] people hated it and complained. That's why we went to the seasonal model.[/quote] How do you know more people hated it? What about all the casual players who only check in for the big releases anyway? It’s human nature to ask for more of something you enjoy. More doesn’t always end up being better. Now we’ve all had a chance to see what the seasonal model looks like, we can make an assessment of it. Some people enjoy seasons, some people want seasons to be adjusted and some people want seasons to disappear. Neither of us know the percentages for those groups, for the whole community.
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Edited by Necrogen: 7/9/2022 2:28:29 PMHow do i know? I dont know 100% of what the community thinks. Ive seen various threads, streams, comments made. Most have delusions while wearing rose tinted glasses. You need to listen to them. Ask them why liked dlc models with droughts. Compare trends...my man I went through this exhaustively and combed through their nonsense. All i got was moving goal posts, subjective argumentation, close minded-ness.
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But we do know that a lot of people check in for the big releases and don’t bother with anything in between. Seasons were made for the dedicated players, who are likely in the minority anyway. Then it’s a portion (however big) of dedicated players who want seasons. The reason seasons work is because dedicated players tend to spend more time and money in the game. Not necessarily because it’s the most popular method of producing and releasing content.
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[quote]But we do know that a lot of people check in for the big releases and don’t bother with anything in between. Seasons were made for the dedicated players, who are likely in the minority anyway. Then it’s a portion (however big) of dedicated players who want seasons. The reason seasons work is because dedicated players tend to spend more time and money in the game. Not necessarily because it’s the most popular method of producing and releasing content.[/quote] Even here you must come to the conclusion that both work together very well. You dont have the silver bullet to take down either model. Both methods are preferred. More people are engaging right now than if it was dlc and content drought. Can they do better? Always. No one here has the answer though.
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[quote]Even here you must come to the conclusion that both work together very well.[/quote] Debatable. It works well for some players and less well for others. Do other parts of the game suffer because Bungie has more content to manage? [quote]You dont have the silver bullet to take down either model.[/quote] Agreed. I’m not claiming to have a silver bullet, but I am claiming that opinions on seasons are very mixed. I do not believe the community is overwhelmingly in favour of seasons to the point that it’s beyond question. [quote]More people are engaging right now than if it was dlc and content drought.[/quote] True, but if quality throughout the game suffers, less people will come back for those big DLCs. Or people like me, may come back, but spend way less time in the game.
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Youd have to do [b][i]alot[/i][/b] of digging if you want to compare trends, marketing, gameplay etc year to year and compare it to D1. Its a tall order but it may pay off? Good luck. Youll have a [i]significant[/i] standing on this if you do. Id love to know what you come up with.
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[quote]Youd have to do [b][i]alot[/i][/b] of digging if you want to compare trends, marketing, gameplay etc year to year and compare it to D1. Its a tall order but it may pay off? Good luck. Youll have a [i]significant[/i] standing on this if you do. Id love to know what you come up with.[/quote] I hate to disappoint you, but I’m not planning on turning forum polling into a full time job 👍
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I didnt say polling. I was referring to research. All the same thats too bad. You'd get your answer doing so.
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[quote]I didnt say polling. I was referring to research.[/quote] I’ll rephrase then: I’m not planning on turning forum polling into full time research 👍