And neither is the traveler the Gardener.
It’s a representation of the 2 sides of Paracausality.
Edit: upon further reading, it would make sense that the Traveler and the gardener are the same.
The Winnower uses casual speech. The Witness uses we when speaking of itself.
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17 RepliesIn Unveiling, Winnower ascribed the thoughts and actions of the Traveler to be that of the Gardner. So the Winnower confirmed the Traveler is the Gardner. Nothing confirms the Witness is the Winnower, the lore indicates that they are not.