There was a time when The Hero's Burden with Feeding Frenzy + Destabilizing was > the roll.. I mean it was blowing up everything.. and now it might have to do more with how primary ammo weaps can't handle the juiced up enemies.. ...so actually a lot of primary wep perks are becoming uninteresting unless they give you damage right now (Frenzy, KT..etc).. not all of us have the patience to ping the bad guy thousand times with the primary wep to get the kill.. with that said I have been keeping my eye on actually using loose change because destabilizing procs it.. so that on the same weap.. can be interesting too I have to end with any buffs in this "magic" respect have to be kept to PVE pls.. but yes are def needed.. or primaries juiced up.. or enemies go on diets.