Do you have any idea what the context was for the "over delivery" quote? Or are you just hopping on the bandwagon? I'm confused by the idea that Bungie has been failing since "D1Y1" to provide some kind of mythical perfect product. And that there's some equally mythical entity that could. Of course I guess you'd have to decide just who's version of perfect we're using. Here's another concept often reacted to through the lens of stupidity. Making games is hard. And keeping a game world going for more than a decade is nigh on impossible. People need to get over the idea that there is a idealized version of Destiny out there somewhere that just needs the right captain to sail it into your lives. Bungie is not your daddy who went to get cigarettes and never came back. People need to get over themselves. https://share.google/3evboQZZKd6M2yBkm

[quote]Do you have any idea what the context was for the "over delivery" quote? Or are you just hopping on the bandwagon? I'm confused by the idea that Bungie has been failing since "D1Y1" to provide some kind of mythical perfect product. And that there's some equally mythical entity that could. Of course I guess you'd have to decide just who's version of perfect we're using. Here's another concept often reacted to through the lens of stupidity. Making games is hard. And keeping a game world going for more than a decade is nigh on impossible. People need to get over the idea that there is a idealized version of Destiny out there somewhere that just needs the right captain to sail it into your lives. Bungie is not your daddy who went to get cigarettes and never came back. People need to get over themselves. https://share.google/3evboQZZKd6M2yBkm[/quote] SMH 🙄 Keep rambling, billy…🤡BDF🤡 That is all. Ease Slings! 👈

Good old ramblin is best muted, even his wife muted him, permanently 😁

[quote]Good old ramblin is best muted, even his wife muted him, permanently 😁[/quote] Already pegged and neutered. 👈 Cheers! 🫡

Defending the truth and rational thought is not defending Bungie. Ad hominem attacks are the resort of those with nothing left to say.

lol No ad hominem attack from me! Although, your '[i]...through the lens of stupidity'.[/i]..'[i]Bungie is not your Daddy[/i]...'., - whose gone and left you (paraphrase)'...etc., could be construed as such?! The context of 'Over-delivery' was as per my explanation of the 'Ratner' moment, and how, one seemingly silly statement caused a whole business empire to collapse, virtually overnight. That is all, nothing more. I don't know your gaming history, however, for me, the Sunset debacle was when the 'space magic' evaporated out of Destiny, along with so many players, that virtually overnight, one's Friends List of several pages emptied, as players voted with their feet. During The Taken King 1.0 - I was a bubble Titan with ToM, and helped quite a few Guardians complete the raid, and, close the MoT yearbook. Then, they nerfed ToM, which was a rare weapon to have in those times, and then came the Sunset debacle. Shortly thereafter, I left and became a Tenno (MR 24) and had a 'whale' of a time. After that, I returned to Destiny's shores, only this time, my engagement with the game would be very different, and it is. I thoroughly enjoyed the 12-man final mission...and, for me, the 10-year compact was done! Yet, I hung around, mostly because, Destiny is the only game that I actually tend to play...even though I hardly do much of anything in it whatsoever, i.e., no raids or dungeons or crazy RNG nonsense. The video link you provided: I watched it, had seen clips of it before, though never watched the whole vid. Thanks for that, am slowly working my way through it. Ever since D1Y1, the missteps and questionable activities of BHQ Management are well known...the continuiing results of which, are where we are today: dwindling player numbers, player apathy writ large, glitches galore, Radio Silence, P2P, F2P, Cheats, bugs unfixed, bugs at ever turn, each 'fix' brings new bugs without fail, cue <crickets>...etc...etc... Is that context enough for you? That is all. Ease Springs!

If you'll indulge me in a hypothetical scenario, suppose the "Sunset debacle" didn't happen. Where would you imagine the game be today as it regards to the "dwindling player numbers, player apathy writ large, glitches galore....." etcetera and so forth; think things would [b]GENUINELY[/b] be better or is that what so many tell themselves because they have nothing else to blame for the fact that a long-running game is simply on the decline? And with no offense intended but in need of being addressed, so are those players?

Stop feeding the animals pops 👍