I don’t mind sweating. I just cannot fathom for the life of me why I keep getting matched against fireteams and their average ELO is way higher than my team. Way too many lopsided matches. I generally go positive, but seeing the bottom four blueberries on my squad with 0.2/0.4/0.86/0.9 KAD’s at the end of match screen is ridiculous. It doesn’t matter if I play well, it’s a guaranteed loss plus I am constantly getting teamshotted because my teammates spend more time dead/AFK than helping to keep me alive. The matchmaking algorithm is the worst that its ever been. I don’t want to be forced to run in a stacked team in order to compete.

Did you just complain about last word??

Honestly I’m part of that group that apes around with Luna’s with a 4-6 stack in QP so my opinion’s a little offset SOOOO.... Crucible has a balancing issue and every idiot can see that. Unfortunately your post just looks like you’re simply complaining instead of rationally pointing out what is actually OP vs just being in the hands of a good player. -Things that spark my interest positivity and negatively- Recluse : no mindless ape with no thumbs should get a PvP advantage by getting 1 gun... ever... Luna’s and NF : they got nerfed once now leave it alone. The reason they’re so over used on console is due to them having ZERO bloom... all 180s and these two weapons have this beautiful thing [u]NO BLOOM[/u] Fusion rifles : yes they’re fun but return the weapon type back to projectile based so the bolts have travel time. Pulse rifles : just a bunch a dad rifles sitting in the spawn... their range is being addressed so I’m happy Hand canon : still the most consistent damage in PvP and that’ll never change, it’ll be even more so now with the recoil changes to 150/140 Shotguns : stop your complaining and embrace your inner ape. Shotguns are hot garbage compared to D1. (Flashbacks on felwinters sniper...NUT) I could go on for hours honestly. This game has things we don’t agree with and things we agree with. Unfortunately Bungie needs to try and keep the hard core players around by keeping PvP alive while also attempting to keep spuds from changing games. Right now the patch notes look promising for PvP so I’m ok. Looking forward to a clorox dragon meta v2!! But the SBMM focused PvP... NOW I COULD GO OFF ABOUT SBMM.... but I’m not... I’ll simply say 2 things about it. 1: What makes you a better player in PvP games?? Facing difficult people or even playing with them... 2: now thumbless people will be shell shocked once their MMR rises too high and get tossed in with higher MMR’s Sorry, RANT OVER

This season I've played the most crucible in a long time earning lunas revoker mountaintop and redrixs all this week. I dont see what your issue is I was working on all these quests with loudouts where I would be at a 'disadvantage' (inc. Working on vigilance wing catalyst) and made it to 2100 naturally without changing to try hard loudouts There was times where I had loss streaks and times where I had win streaks but all in all it felt ok. Lunas is probably the most common weapon i felt severely beat me more than others but I have it now so I'm not concerned

Have you even played lately? I have been playing Iron Banner heavily the past few days to get my 5th reset. I have come across just 2 people with the recluse and nobody with a Lunas or a N.F. I have seen a whole lot of grenade launchers but it is what it is. And yes the supers are annoying along with too many heavy spawns.

It’s been shit for years. Literally, for YEARS!

You’re correct, Crucible is all about cheap one hit kills as fast as you can get them, there’s hardly any duels it’s all about max speed aping ADHD running around -blam!- trying to get OP .5 second kills, it completely sucks at the moment, hope it gets fixed in Shadowkeep.

If you had any idea of playing a hunter you would know dodge is not very evasive at all “literally” you can get shot mid dodge getting hitmarkered from where you were not where you currently are And what you call other people sweating normally means your just not as good so play more get better do pinnacle quest if you think they’re op Also what do you expect Bungie to do to shotguns ? They do their job their not really that long range so you need to counter or get better tactics to combat them instead of just whinging on forums

I just played a couple of games of IB on PC (thanks Cross Save) and couldn't even take the shields off some players. Then others would appear in front of me that weren't there before, not appearing on radar etc etc. I love the look of it on PC, but it seems to have a lot more lag issues, or more people exploiting them. There is also a very distinct difference in weapon capabilities, Hand Cannons on PC are a lot more prevalent.

Don’t care about anything other then the huge shit stain that is jotun and the d bags that use it

I have the perfect perspective here. I played very little D1 PVP, but decided to make a change in D2 and learn to be a good PVP player. Not great,but good. Here’s the thing, over the past few months I have played dozens of hours of PvP. And I find only one thing to be consistent. That it can and will never be. Check this out, I loaded into a match with roughly the same people twine in a row and Destiny crucible was made clear to me in a matter of 20 minutes. 1st game I popped 2 supers, both we’re eliminated, by blade barrage, Slam. I had what I consider an average match. I was kind of trade for trade. We lost 125/111. Pretty close match. My KAD was 1.29 2nd game- same opponent. Neither of my supers were nixed by other supers. I got 9 super kills that match. Twice I got in close and procked my recluse perk and mowed down a few in a row. I also got a handful of last shots on players that others on my team had lowered significantly. End result we won 125/87. My KAD is 3.79 What’s the lesson?? Here it is. Even with the same players in back to back games 100s of split second circumstances changed the outcome greatly. Will you get dump trucked by a better team? Of course. Will you be the dump truck sometimes? Of course. Overall the crucible is balanced for your skill level. If you are slightly above average like I am you will win a tad more than half of your games and have a KAD of 1.2-2.0 most games. If you are bad your numbers will Mostly he bad. And so on. Stop complaining about the crucible. The meta changes every so often and the experience evolves. It’s all you can ask for. Bc it is impossible for it to be truly balanced.