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Edited by foxburton99: 11/1/2017 9:25:43 AM
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Clearing things up

Happy Halloween everyone 👻🎃 If you’re young enough for trick-or-treating, may your bags overflow with treats. If you’re too old, then I’m in your boat, so u guys have fun scaring little kids I don’t have time to make longer posts today, so those of you who were expecting my Halloween stories will have to wait a day or two. Until then, here’s a post on some of the things that need clearing up in the lore community right now (a lot of this is oversimplified for the sake of being understandable) [b]Cayde’s arm:[/b] since humanity has no knowledge of how Exos work or how to properly repair them, everyone has been asking me how Cayde has gotten his arm back without it being a clunky thing with a “built in rocket launcher”. This one is simple, because when Cayde got his Light back his Ghost rebuilt the arm. Ghosts can rebuild any lost parts of their Guardian guys [b]Rise of Iron:[/b] I’ve noticed a lot of confusion from D1 players about there only being a couple of D2 lines referencing what we did in RoI, as well as the alarming presence of people saying RoI isn’t canon. I assure all of u, RoI is cannon and we are an Iron Lord, BUT we are not one of the original Iron Lords of the first generation so flavor texts still say Saladin is “the last Iron Lord” [b]The Stranger:[/b] the Stranger may have been shelved after D1, but she is still canon, no matter what people are saying in the forums. We can only hope that she appears to us again later in Destiny, because as long as the Vex are a threat I believe she should be present [b]Exos in general:[/b] Exos are machine bodies that had a human mind basically downloaded into them. Exos ARE human and we have no evidence of any non-human Exos. We’re now seeing places in D2 with Exos frozen in Warmind bunkers, and this can be explained simply by the fact that Exo construction and mind transplants were overseen by Warminds like Rasputin, so it makes sense for them to be there [b]Vex:[/b] the Vex are a white organic liquid that controls a machine body. They can be compared to a hive mind due to the way they all perform individual tasks to benefit the whole, but collective mind is a better term (and the one used in Destiny) because they are not a bunch of workers controlled by one superior mind. They are all fragments of the same mind that work together, like all the nerves that make up a single brain. Having two Goblins stand a few meters away from each other is like having two copies of the exact same person who are having different experiences at the same time and sharing that knowledge with all the other versions of themselves. The Vex are unable to simulate Guardians because we defy the laws of physics, so we pose a real threat to their work, which is to integrate themselves into all time and space so that they will never die out It was a short list but hopefully it’ll help some of u guys out. As always I’m open to any feedback or questions any of u have. Light be with u, Guardians

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  • The Vex are only the greater threat when they have access to paracausal abilities, considering that we're... uh... um... "unsimulatable"? That's not a word but you get it. Begs the question, what the -blam!- is up with the future? Black suns? Destroyed Vex architecture? That last bit and the remaining appearance of the Descendant Vex make me believe that they aren't trying to create the future we see, but trying to stop it. But...

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    • [quote]Saladin is “the last Iron Lord”[/quote] While I disagree that us being new Iron Lords makes it ok that Saladin say's he's the last (If it said the "Last original Iron Lord or First Generation Iron lord that'd be a different story(even though it'd still be wrong)) Is Efrideet not still alive? I recall no mention that she has died, she simply is just not here. Idk if Saladin says something about this in his dialog, as the Banner hasn't hit PC yet...

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      • I always just assumed Saladin is referred to as the Last Iron Lord is because he was until Eifrideet came back and nobody but Saladin and Tyra really acknowledged her and The Guardian (the player) was an Iron Wolf, not a Lord. Could be semantics, but as I said it's what I thought.

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          Thing is, at the end of D2s story, we dont see any of the Vanguard with their ghosts (see ending D2) so in my eyes they didn't get their power back (not light anymore as its retconned), so at the end of D2 the only guardian with a ghost is yourself. So im unsure the bit about Cayde 6 is right.

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          • I honestly thought Cayde 6 was more or less joking when he said his arm was shot off. Like he got shot in the arm and he couldn't use it, but not that it was actually removed. As far as I remember he still has his arm attached when we meet him before going through the teleporter.

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            • Glad to see your posts fox. I've never really replied to any but have thoroughly enjoyed reading everything since my first foray into Destiny lore. Very excited to see what the new dlc brings and to see and other lore masters/enthusiasts view points on what it all means and how it all ties together. On one specific topic - the exo stranger - do you think we may see her in this upcoming curse of Osiris dlc? To me the whole vex past and future, dire straights of humanity due to an overwhelming vex threat, it just seems to loudly ring back to the terrible future the exo stranger tried to get us to fight back into nothingness. Would be cool, imo, if there were at least some call backs to her from D1 for veterans.

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                Yeah most of that is based on opinion. It's just more likely that Bungie retconned most of the things or just didn't care enough, for example the Iron Lord's thing or The Exo Stranger. It's pretty clear they've become pretty much inept when it comes to the story and writing of the game.

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                • From now on first thing I think of when I hear "white organic liquid" is Vex.

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                    • Edited by PapaHeavy2: 11/1/2017 12:22:53 AM
                      Good stuff Fox, but I’d argue that the Vex do act a bit as a “hive” mind per se Let’s look at one of the definitions of “hive” mind the property of apparent sentience in a colony of social insects acting as a single organism, each insect performing a specific role for the good of the group. Now to me, this sounds like exactly what the Vex are doing. They can work separate from each other but always for the common goal......whatever that may be They also seem to spread as some sort of space virus also, as seen with Asher’s arm P.S great explanation on Cayde’s arm. Thanks for that

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