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Could this weapon effect someone with this powers? Omilock: User resides outside of everything: space, time, non-space, non-time, duality, probability, improbability, possibility, impossibility, nonexistence, (absolute) nothingness, existence, etc. They cannot be affected by anything, even temporal paradox or reality warping; and are immune to virtually everything, even Universal Irreversibility and Nonexistence. Omni-Protection User is protected against anything/everything regardless of its nature, whether its physical, mental, spiritual, supernatural or conceptual, allowing them to avoid any/all damage, no matter what the source of it is.
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  • Yes. Oryx and the dreadnought utilize paracausual powers (Limited paracausual powers I grant you) that he either was given by the darkness or took from the darkness by force. Paracausual powers by their nature override logic. A paracausual attack against a defense that is unaffected by all conceivable or inconceivable aggressors would do nothing because the aggrieving power doesn't count as either. It is without definition or praxis. Oryx essentially has cheat codes that metaphysically affect the destiny universe.

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  • Hmm. Well omni protection is to protect against anything. Para casual is just reality warping. Omnilock isn't effect by anything.

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  • An important distinction should be remembered. Paracausality isn't reality warping...It's a reality adjacent concept and has no connection to any scenario in which the laws that dictate how things do and do not happen in reality apply. This proposed Omnilock protects against anything, everything, and nothing all at once which are defined concepts. They may not be completely understood or truly quantifiable concepts but we can vaguely draw up a picture of what they mean in our heads and that's the vulnerability. If the universe can or cannot do it at a fundamental level then the abstract concept in question is not superordinate to a paracausual influence which by nature transcends it and then functions outside of it's influence in a kind of reality mocking form. Imagine it this way. Omnilock is a set of equations. 1+1=2, 1+0=1, and 0+0=0. Something paracausual can be all three equations but they all also equal 2, 1, 0, sombrero, halibut, Master Chief, and a blue solo cup...or it can be none of those if it wants to. Why then were we even able to get close to the dreadnought without Oryx turning us into a paper thin nonexistant tree? Because then we couldn't wear his ass like a hat...I guess... This is the problem I do have with paracausality in destiny. A villain shouldn't have it because it can't really be used within a game setting where the objective is ever [i]beat the bad guy[/i]. Yeah, guardians are apparently paracausual too because of the light but it still feels...Meh...Like Destiny 2 ; )

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  • Edited by ghost59: 10/24/2017 4:33:15 PM
    From what i understand. Paracausal is broken down to this, para meaning beyond and causal having to do with causality. Meaning that oryx, guardians are immune to causality and so are above it. Omnilock is above it all, above multiversal laws, above super natural laws, above metaphysical laws, concepts, non concepts, existence and non existence. Reality and unreality. Duality and transcendent. above it all. It can't be hurt or effected by any means. That's like shoot at. A wall that will never be effected by anything, you can attack with a super natural flame that says screw reality but it will just walk it off.

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  • Gotcha. i was misunderstanding the intended functionality of Omnilock. This actually sounds like or at least shares some traits with acausality a bit, now that I think about it. Oryx does not (that I know of) possess acausual powers but the darkness does or at least it has an acausual effect on space-time.

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  • Omnilock is an interesting thing, beyond everything and anything. Not only ignoring every law but rejecting them all together. Rejecting every power, every universe. His powers are the strongest in his realm not the phyical reality. Tho i never seen him use time as a weapon like the vex.

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