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12/1/2022 12:11:55 PM
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[quote]Where is the war? The story? The fight for the Traveler? Rasputin? Siva? Any other story?[/quote]
Its all there. But the nature of the war has changed. Its no longer a tribal fight where one race is "good" (humans) and everyone else is (by definition) "evil". Its a war that is now being fought for individual hearts and minds....and everyone has to choose a side (good vs evil)...and what they will fight it with (Light vs Darkness vs combination of both).
To me, that is a MUCH more interesting story. In fact I think what we have is a vastly better story than what we were given in the first years of Destiny.
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Modifié par Guardian,Archon Of Light : 12/1/2022 9:09:27 PM
Guardian,Archon Of LightBlade Of The Traveler - ancien
Be careful, people will correct you that there is no good and evil anymore , but also evil is good and good is evil Say what they will, The Traveler gave me life and power to protect the weak, the Witness seeks final death to all not strong enough to deserve life, to me there is no ambiguity , The Traveler wants life, The Witness wants Death, clear cut Good vs Evil, no matter how much Bungie wants it too be deeper , it's not and doesn't have to be I will protect The Traveler with the life it gave me, and I will never accept darkness for has long has I draw breath!! -
I mean. Even if it is incredibly extreme, there’s a pretty “reasonable” logic to the plans of the Witness. With the compere erasure of Life and Death, there’s not exactly any more suffering.
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Modifié par IainG10 : 12/2/2022 5:38:04 PMI'd say the Traveller and the Witness do represent good and evil, but Light and Dark are no more good or evil than any other natural law (like gravity or electromagnetism), and there has been an effort to show individuals and factions as good or evil, rather than painting entire species with those brushes.
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I see it this way as well. Basically we are just gaining allies at this point for the (hopefully) big conflict soon to come.
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I respect your prospective. I must disagree, Destiny took me where Halo couldn’t and I still go back and play D1. It’s the reason I enjoy the series so much. War is not a feeling, its a knock down, drag out battle of mental , physical and spiritual strength. Guns included. When we fought the Taken King (Originally)… epic. The struggle was real, Guardians had to join forces and blast the enemy into oblivion. This is why I play Destiny for the story. Seems we know less about whatsoever happening out there. Will we face the Nine? Is Rasputin gone? Siva on the loose? Where’s the Ice Breaker? Ha ha, To War
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I'd say there are different roles in war, and we've shifted between the roles we're filling. Halo and (from what I hear) D1 we were frontline troops following orders and making the other poor sod die for their cause etc. Whereas now we're more of a leadership/special forces individual, tackling the small but vital missions like saboutaging supply lines or assassinating our counterparts on the other side. Both are aspects of war, and go on simultaneously, but play very differently. And I'm not saying one is better than the other; just pointing out the differences.
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...and there are different kinds of wars. Early Halo and Early Destiny were both apocalyptic wars of annihilation. Where it wasn't a matter of one side trying to hit the other over the head and take their stuff....but instead to drive them to extinction. Those kinds of wars make for intense storytelling because there is an thick air of desperation that hangs over the losing side (in the Babylon 5 series, The Mimbari were beating Earth so badly that we were reduced to begging for mercy...) . The reality is that most wars aren't fought that way. I think what the OP is feeling isn't so much of the absence of war....but the fact that the nature of the war has changed. With the defeat of Oryx, the conflict stopped being that War of Annihilation. Its now become a low-intensity conflict that is being fought by unconventional means....for pragmatic, limited goals. Which has turned the temperature down. From a hard boil....to a slow simmer. I think this works because what is going on right now is sort of a "preamble" to a much larger, final conflict between the Vanguard Alliance....and the forces of The Witness. Where both sides are manuevering to position their forces to best advantage before the shooting begins in earnest.
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I get that prospective. You are right those were more frontline games. In the trenches type stuff. I see us as Special Forces for sure. I just want more in depth story focused on battle and the light and dark saga. Leave real world agenda out of this. This is my escape the world adventures!
