I died to it once in 31 or so matches of Trials this past weekend and I was repeatedly violated in those games. Only once by the nade and shatterdive. I did catch quite a few with it but they were camping corners and sitting ducks for it, caught them out in the open as I baited them at a revive and other situations where I outplayed them and put them into that situation. But even with me being a bad Trials player, only got caught once by it. Avoided it quite easily a lot. Oddly enough, one of the best ways to avoid getting caught by it is to have it hit your body while jumping at it. It doesn’t trigger till it hits the ground, so having it hit you ricochets it away from you and 9/10 times has it tigger to far away from you. And sometimes the ricochet causes it to land wrong and never activate. Just my 2 cents as a player that goes into Trials to get violated for rewards.

[quote]The same thing was said about shotguns but y’all didn’t care. Stop defending the grenade that functions as a super.[/quote] You know people here can’t go without their clutches. I’m not even suggesting a completely ruined concept. Just a few seconds in between its activation. That’s fair, and makes sense. But we can’t have those two things in these forums. “No no, it’s fine so get gud buddy. Don’t like my busted tricks? Just avoid it next time!! Can’t avoid it? Don’t challenge me!! Oh you’re in the back of the map now? Allow me to snipe you with my extremely high AA sniper & dogpile you with my 3 stack team!! Time to roll out the supers!! Time for a triple tea bag season. Haha get gud noob” There’s a lot of people here who think this way. ^ The game will never get better if we’re so unwilling to look into why people have issues with PvP. I love PvP and have gone flawless many times. I play it nearly every day & have do so for the last 7+ years. I’ve seen the highs and lows of Destiny history. You can’t cling to some so strongly and shun the idea that maybe that thing you like to do, isn’t balanced among the other choices. That doesn’t make the game bland or boring. It challenges you & makes your actual skill in game matter.

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