[quote]Let’s just forget about icebreaker already[/quote] I don’t see why. Capcom hasn’t forgotten about Ryu & Ken. Sega hasn’t forgotten about Sonic. PlayStation hasn’t forgotten about FF7, crash bandicoot, Spyro the dragon, etc. why should Bungie forget about their iconic arsenal of weapons?

You can reference other games, however they are not this one. Icebreaker has not been brought forward because it failed due to the regeneration of ammo. We had a pseudo ammo regen weapon with the pinnacle sniper, revoker, and even that was sunset. Ammo regeneration doesn’t really fit within destiny, so let’s leave it alone.

[quote]You can reference other games, however they are not this one. Icebreaker has not been brought forward because it failed due to the regeneration of ammo. We had a pseudo ammo regen weapon with the pinnacle sniper, revoker, and even that was sunset. Ammo regeneration doesn’t really fit within destiny, so let’s leave it alone.[/quote] What about this concept fails to resolve the ammo regain property?

My main focus is the impact on pvp: The main point about snipers being “balanced” in the ammo economy is that you must acquire ammo in order to use the weapon, therefore closing the distance between you and others and losing your range advantage. This subverts the acquisition of ammo portion entirely - thus creating a meta of passiveness using long range weapons and acquiring long range special ammo. [i]The above is regardless of how balanced or imbalanced you believe the ammo economy to be at the moment[/i]

[quote]My main focus is the impact on pvp: The main point about snipers being “balanced” in the ammo economy is that you must acquire ammo in order to use the weapon, therefore closing the distance between you and others and losing your range advantage. This subverts the acquisition of ammo portion entirely - thus creating a meta of passiveness using long range weapons and acquiring long range special ammo. [i]The above is regardless of how balanced or imbalanced you believe the ammo economy to be at the moment[/i][/quote] Every sniper in the game spawns with ammo. This would be the only exception. Given how you need to get a kill first (or picking up a special brick), allowing for the ammo to generate, & then use it. Which actually puts you at odds with other snipers of its class. In terms of ammo; let’s say you’re running one scavenger mod. So getting one primary kill will generate two rounds, right? That’s still lower than a traditional sniper. Since a regular sniper would already have two rounds to begin with. Thus making it four. But in ice breakers case, it’s two. That’s one balancing factor. The next point of concern was the green ammo pickup, which is about as basic as any other. You pick it up, you get the ammo. But ice breaker needs to slowly build two shots over 2.5 seconds. Which is a delay

I would like to add, in a new reply because I want it known, I like the idea. I agree when people say it is detailed and a new twist on an old gun. However, while I can like it and understand the thought, I can still disagree.