My apologies for the lousy title, but the question I want to ask is a bit lengthy for a title. Anyhue, my question is as follows; Is physically hurting someone 'cause they have insulted, disrespected or hurt your feelings - or someone you care about - justified? It's not uncommon to hear someone say something along the lines of, "That guy deserved to get his ass beat 'cause he was talking shit about such and such." or "I'm going to -blam!- you up for saying (insert petty whore shit here)." et cetera, et cetera... But why? Ignoring the obvious fact that there's a thing called freedom of speech (in most places that is) it's absolutely silly to say that someone deserves to get hurt because of the sounds known as words that were produced from their mouth.
I had suggested this very thing one day in the anger management group I attend after a fellow attendant had told a story about a friend of his that put someone in a coma because he was talking crap about his parents whom had recently died of cancer (to which I should add, the individual was not aware of this, not that it's really relevant). After hearing this, multiple members of the group exclaimed that he deserved it, while the group overseer and myself were of a different opinion.
The conversation then led to a discussion of why he deserved to be put in a comatose state for something he said, with the overseer repeatedly asking "So?" each time one of them said "He deserved it 'cause (insert terrible reasoning and justification here)." or something similar. I eventually decided to speak up by declaring, "There are no words that can be said that would justify you physically hurting someone." (not counting serious threats that someone has full intent on following through with of course) to which the majority of the room either disagreed or didn't seem to have any real opinion one way or the other.
The only one that actually agreed with my statement was the overseer.
One, rather vocal member of the group tried to mindlessly argue my point by mentioning things that were far out of context and only had vague similarities in comparison to what we were discussing, all the while failing to actually explain how and why hurting someone for what they said is justified.
So, assuming you read all that (if you didn't too -blam!-ing bad 'cause I'm not putting a tl;dr for a few short paragraphs) what is your opinion on the matter? Do you honestly believe that you - or anyone else for that matter - is in the right to "Fuck someone up" for insulting you or someone you care about?
Edit: Some of you are saying more of the same shit I was hearing in group... You're saying that it is justified, warranted, called for or that the individual deserves it, but none of you are giving any valid reasons as to why or how that is so... Also, since some of you are mentioning how putting someone in a coma is a bit over the top and only [i]a good punch or two is all that's necessary[/i], I should note that he was only punched once...
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Fight fire with fire; disrespect with disrespect.
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I'd like to control myself, but idk
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It's all a social pressure thing Everyone wants to seem all tough and manly Especially in groups They feel like they need to protect their false sense of pride and end up doing stupid things to appear strong They're just words They hold no truth to the nature of your personality If you become angry, you're proving that whatever they're saying is true If someone was to insult me or my family, I wouldn't get mad How does their words affect me or my family and friends? [url=https://youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk]I think we should all just learn to...[/url]
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I'm not a pansy, so course I'm not backing down
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Cuz them are fighting words
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I was expecting the super marine copy-paste
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For the most part, I'd say no. Honestly violence and fighting is really going to solve any problems. However, there are unfortunately many terrible individuals out there who just have big mouths. For example: insulting someone's parents who died from cancer? While I can understand that the person probably became really angry (I mean come on that's some emotional shit), putting them in a hospital? Like really? They probably didn't know that, and simply stating that fact probably would have been more effective at stopping that person from insulting them. But then again, everyone has different temperaments. It's obvious some people will take offense to insults directed at them or their loved ones. Depending on the severity if those insults, one could attempt to justify the violence behind reacting violently, but in the end that really doesn't get you anything but more bad blood (i.e friends of said person who want to get "even")
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Editado por A Clone Spooker: 9/17/2014 12:56:56 PM[quote]One, rather vocal member of the group tried to mindlessly argue my point by mentioning things that were far out of context and only had vague similarities in comparison to what we were discussing, all the while failing to actually explain how and why hurting someone for what they said is justified.[/quote] Were you arguing with desticles? Lol but really it depends on who they were talking about, and how comfortable they were when they said it. Also, a little about who said it. Because, if some body builder starts talking shit it's a nope.jpg If some tended comes up and starts talking shit to me, they can yell all they want, nothing's gonna happen. Unless they throw a punch lol. But if the same asshole redneck comes up and starts picking on my sister, my girlfriend, really any girl I care about were gonna have some problems. Not to go all white knight mode but you don't lay your hands on a lady. Edit: unless she wants you to, ;)
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Editado por Dafuq: 9/17/2014 1:33:41 PMYup. Used to get physical any time somebody would insult me. Fighting is juvenile? No, insulting people is juvenile. You may have free speech, but you don't have the freedom of no consequences. Besides, free speech means the government can't cut your hand off for saying you hate the president.
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Your username is silly
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As with most things involving the social graces of humanity, it depends on the situation.
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Also, for people who think like that, they will sooner rather than later get stomped, because they will be rushing to fight, and someone bigger and better will run their mouth to them. If they dont fight, they are just cowards who use violence instead of intelligence on people they perceive as weak.
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TLDR okay ...
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A good ol fashion bitch slap isnt out of the question but hospitalization is a tad too much icing on the cake.
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Nah, I just shoot ppl nowadays.
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[quote]cause they have insulted, disrespected or hurt your feelings - or someone you care about - justified? [/quote] Nope, it isnt. If you have to resort to violence over insults, thats pathetic. There are times where physical retaliation are reasonable, but hurled insults, and differing opinions isnt one of them.
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In my country you can't hit anyone at all without the fear of facing prison time, which is a double edged sword because it allows me to be a total dickweed to people but restricts me from punching an idiot in the face.
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Depends Insult me? Meh not really. Insult my wife and kids? Be prepared for a trip to A+E.
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Physical violence is juvenile for the most part anyway.
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You don't wanna TL;DR, and I'm too tired to read. So I'm gonna say yes; there are things that can be said which warrant an ass-kicking. Words can say more than actions.
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With great power (freedom of speech) comes great responsibility Its easy to abuse freedom of speech, to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In my opinion, throwing a guy in a coma for talking shit is going overboard, but throwing some good punches his way is an ideal punishment for insulting someone on a deeply personal level ( not just spurting "-blam!- yous" i mean, that doesnt even count as an insult in this day and age) and abusing freedom of speech.
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It's a difficult one to assess properly, but if you're being a jerk to someone, don't be surprised when they put you on the ground. There are better courses of action to take in that situation, but in the heat of the moment, a forceful strike is understandable.
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It seems pretty irrational to attack someone just from something they said, that's like schoolyard shit. Obviously if they are describing something they are going to do, then yeah maybe that's different, but that can depend on the situation. Other than that, it just seems silly though.
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Editado por Citadel Space: 9/17/2014 8:34:35 AMThat's something to think about. I feel like I can understand why someone would -blam!- someone up because the insult triggered high emotions. Honestly it's hard to feel sympathy for someone who got -blam!-ed up because they were being a dick for no reason. It all depends, maybe the person who was being insulting [i]could[/i] have been joking or not really serious.