Not a fist fight.
Batman's out of town for a few years. Joker has half the city's criminals and Bane has the other half.
Who wins? Will Joker be able to break Bane and his men's psyche? Will Bane be able to physically stomp through all of Joker's forces?
Ah versus threads. I miss you so.
Didn't Talia al Ghul mastermind the plot? Not Bane?
Oh, and Joker did win. He broke Harvey Dent. He forced Batman into retirement and the "hope" that the people achieved was a lie. Bane probably wouldn't have been able to operate if it weren't for Joker.