Listen, you know this is ridiculous. Because I have... multiple times, grabbed all my writing... & linked it together. For reference here is: [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/264196277?sort=0&page=0]Spoiler... a lore topic[/url] The above compiles most everything I've written, except my most recent series. I've only gotten one thing wrong, and it wasn't related to the lore... the return of the loot cave. I've changed my mind once, about Crow... But other than that, I've owned... & kept the references available for anyone to scrutinize. But these "scholars" won't. They'll cherry pick my boldest claims and mischaracterize them out of context. Osana, Sathona, Savathun... Gardener... is my theory. Savathun will appear as though she is killed, my prediction is... early in Heresy, twisted up in the Tree of Woe (Silver Wings) as was shown in the Final Shape trailers. But that is when she transforms, she is reborn as the Gardener... that is when the Gardener will manifest... my theory. I ain't runnin' from ****, MC. Never have, not here... anywhere

Actually you just admitted to having been saying the very thing you claimed I’ve been mischaracterizing all this time. In this thread you say Savathun is the Gardener in disguise and writes “the script” for everyone. A simulation of her own making. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/263781156/0/0 Which is a spin on the series finale twist of the tv show St. Elsewhere. Where the whole show happens in the imagination of an autistic child, Tommy Westphall. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Westphall Which I pointed out to you and you merely said it was a “cynical interpretation” of your idea. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/263848294/0/0/1 So it actually sounds like I accurately unraveled the not so mysterious premise of your grand theory sometime ago. 😎 It’s all a simulation someone is playing out, scripted like a movie. Or even a [i]video game[/i], perhaps? 🤦 Ah yes. Such a clever idea. 🤪 Making a bunch of noise and make people wonder what your grand idea is only for it to be ‘the whole point of the story is someone immersing themselves into a video game reality’ And why did you waste your time on this? Cause you’re a butthurt troll who got mad people here deflated your stupid spinfoil theories one after another to the point where you decided to make up something dumb theory to waste our time on debunking over the years. Problem is, you suck so bad at it that it isn’t hard nor time consuming to figure out or debunk. Once you laid it out, it was obvious. Not so clever after all it seems. 🤡 Fun note you also claimed that after going into the pale heart we would need to destroy the universe your “lady in white”, Savathun, made in order to escape the Pale Heart. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/263888962/0/0 Remind me which parts of what all you’ve said are proven wrong and which are proven right? 🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎🤡🌎 Extra notes showing you unequivocally said these things: You say the whole universe is a simulation, in this post in the spoiler. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/263888962/0/0 In this post you say Savathun made the simulation. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/263676325/0/0 🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️ Seems like maybe you should have run, cause you literally handed me the receipts I was too lazy to bother with finding. You did my work for me. Or was it your minion you’ve been having look up my posts? Time is my side, oh yes it is. 🎶🎶🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵🎵🎶🎶

It isn't. 😇👍💠

[quote]Savathun will appear as though she is killed, my prediction is... early in Heresy, twisted up in the Tree of Woe (Silver Wings) as was shown in the Final Shape trailers. But that is when she transforms, she is reborn as the Gardener... that is when the Gardener will manifest... my theory. I ain't runnin' from ****, MC.[/quote] Glad to hear it, because you will be held to that if that prediction doesn’t occur in Heresy.