yes! pvp went back to vanilla d2. team shots and team shots. and ability spam. the nerf to bodyshots made the game so you to be PERFECT to compete. the skill gap is just wayyyy wider. players want to enjoy the game more than be highly competitive every single match. BUNGIE, hire a dedicated pvp team please. and stop giving hunters all the lingering abilities. swarm, smoke and spectar is ridiculous. or buff titans and warlocks. give the synthoceps back! how can you nerf synthoceps but hunters have a spectar thats a dodge, prox mine, barricade, threadlings, aim tracker, and radar ping at once!? that’s 6 abilities for 1… 6! ping and aim arent even neccasary in pve. at least add those to the titan barricade or rift. i bet you can measure how crap pvp is just by players backing out! Post that metric on your next tweet sometime.