Unfortunatly for you, crucible carried destiny population for a lot of time during bad periods Crucible is a unique experience among all pvp games and, considering its state, his population is still really high, imagine if it got the support it needs. It would be far more enjoyable for everyone (especially with less oppressive mm, guns and abilities) I don't enjoy pve as many other players don't enjoy pvp, but i do raids, i do my 980 nfs and quests without any problem: everyone should be able to see work on the side of the game he/she likes and wants to play

[quote]Unfortunatly for you, crucible carried destiny population for a lot of time during bad periods[/quote] Every statistic I have seen about Destiny's total player-base has said otherwise, so I am skeptical whenever this claim is made. Cruicible is Halo with abilities and classes that do not play at a level playing field. Thats fundamentaly a terrible state to design a pvp game, especialy without dedicated serves and p2p hosting with little to no anticheat.