@Roland I haven't commented on these forums in a very long time, and I logged in specifically to chime in on this topic and give my two cents on how're you're right, and anybody that disagrees with the [b]factual[/b] statement this thread portrays needs to log in and do a simple comparison between classes. There is a literal 0.4 second delay between a Warlocks melee compared to a Titans/Hunters, plain and simple. Takes literally a minute to do a comparison between 10 melee attacks. Funnily enough, Warlock melee's are [i][b]extremely[/b][/i] inconsistent with hit detection and often times 'whiff' past a player/npc despite the melee lunge. As it has [i][b]already been said[/b][/i] as well, Warlocks do [u]not[/u] have better ranged melee attacks anymore compared to Hunters/Titans; Anybody that has half a brain-stem and... you know, actually plays the game regularly would know that Bungie nerfed Warlock melee range back in Year 1 of Destiny 2 to be in line with Titans/Hunters. The only Warlock melee that has a higher reach, is Stormcaller's Classes, and that's a [u][b]melee ability[/b][/u] that we literally have to wait over a minute each time to use [b]once[/b] with no extra damage applied behind it, and lightning ball is literally slower than a throwing knife/hammer. Also, after checking back on this thread multiple times, can people use the most minimalist parts of their brain and understand that Handheld Supernova is [b]not[/b] a melee attack, but a grenade ability? Keep on it, Roland; I don't log in to post often anymore due to the ever-growing amount of toxicity and ignorance despite being on this website for over 11-Years, but the amount of blind hunters and thick-skulled titans on this post is overwhelming, so with this, I bid a farewell for probably atleast another couple months. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Profile/254/133007/A%20Rainbow%20Filly]~Codykins / Filly[/url]

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I have never seen actual evidence that warlock hits slower, could you show some?

This.

We as a community (most of us) know it's broken and needs to be fixed. The ball is and has been in Bungie's court and they don't know what to do with it.

This post is extremely accurate. Although equipping ophidian aspects add range and a little hit detection it seems. Personally done this and it helps. -blam!- bungie

The amount of arrogance these Titans and Hunters are displaying is quite pathetic

It makes sense because a lot of the mechanics come straight from D1. Warlocks had the slowest melee speed but the longest range. In D2 they balanced all the melee ranges so every class were identical but “forgot” to change the speed at the same time. It 100% should be fixed, Titans melee slower then Hunters too btw it just the Warlocks are even slower then them

How anyone can justify this i'll never know. Thanks for providing the proof. The sad thing is that Bungie will actually probably expect us Warlocks to be grateful if they ever change this obvious imbalance that we have been asking for for literally years now.

dear warlocks have other (god) abilities just keep playing and you will find out about them for example the skating jump with then sg or other things

You know it sucks when Warlocks can't even melee those damn forge drones consistently. I miss them most of the time, but hardly with the Hunter and Titan.

Try ophidian aspects.

Don't think they're capable or care to fix it.

Im pretty sure a warlock melee in general is special as unlike the other melee animations for the other classes it keeps your character a good distance away as the animation send the damage out as a wave instead of actual contact and I’m also pretty sure the base range is a tad longer then the others. I could just be crazy i have not actually tested this thoroughly but when playing a warlock and using the basic melee attack i feel it has a longer range.

This is true but I also find Warlock melee ‘snaps’ to people better. Whenever I play my hunter after I’ll always swing at the air for a few matches until I readjust.