Editado por GhostbusterJ: 5/21/2019 10:48:58 PM[quote]...any terminology used in this post is never meant to put one group of players above another. Everyone needs a spot at the table...[/quote] [quote]..In the end, I just mean to say that those who favor Spectacle should realize the game is not just for them...[/quote] How should Player A not expect spectacle in a fantasy loot shooter with aliens, space magic, glowey armor, fictional locations, giant towering enemies, guns that shoot all matter of energy beams and fire, and sci-fi vehicles? The hotness from the last holiday event was a special ornament that gave players glowing deer antlers! Perhaps it is Player B who is looking for that extra triumph where it doesn't exist? Destiny is not Dark Souls. It never will be. Destiny is a casual space fantasy looter shooter no matter how badly hardcore players want it to be their magnum opus of "gun skill" and "strategy" and "gamesense" (whatever the eff that is). This is a game that will never be competitive without a drastic overhaul to balance and dedicated servers [u]to start[/u] and should not be taken seriously. There is endgame for sure, and titles, and other activities that are geared for extra challenge, but that's where it will end. When Destiny 2 launched, it was so short on spectacle (to attempt to make the game competitive for PVP) that players revolted and Bungie had to change it (slower movement, slower power generation, weak powers, weak abilities, etc). Since Forsaken, Bungie throttled power progress and is walking back their promise to "bring other things up and not nail the hot ones down", and players are revolting again.