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Editado por Prof Sheitbag: 2/10/2018 12:03:56 AM
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Oh boy! Can I break your post down line by line? It will bring me much joy! [quote]You say D2 is oversimplified as if it's a bad thing. Some people want that.[/quote] All right! A generalization followed up by a subjective claim without any evidence! Wow, we are off to an excellent start with this one, folks! [quote]The negatives in D2 are there, as they are in most games these days. You know, these days of a masterpiece being the only kind of AAA title that isn't harshly criticized.[/quote] LOL - Then I guess we have not seen a "masterpiece" in some time! But in all honesty, not living up to your previous game is the problem here, not some vague argument that "nothing is perfect, so stop complaining" premise. Because that just makes no sense at all. [quote]You have to try and appreciate what D2 devs are doing. They are being BOTH proactive and reactive with their patches and changes.[/quote] Yup! I did try. Sadly, their "proactive" attempts were designed around making their jobs easier, not taking risks and implementing changes intent on game improvement overall. Their "reactive" changes have been, for the most part, horrid attempts at calming a dissatisfied consumer base. Either way you look at it, neither approach is at all noble in either intent or execution. [quote]In a game of this scope, style and substance, you aren't giving it the proper credit it deserves because your minority segment of the population is dissatisfied.[/quote] Well, if we were talking about D1 Year 3, I would agree with you. But considering Bungie reduced the scope of their game for easier management, I would say your argument is flawed from the start there. Also, your "minority segment" appears to be greater than you anticipate consider the daily numbers... [quote]The population is billions. Hard core video gamers are in the thousands.[/quote] Gamers in general are what Bungie is going for here, not just the "hard core" crowd. And they failed to capture the majority in either category. Also, if "hard core gamers" were in the thousands, this market would not exist. [quote]Do the math.[/quote] I did. You are wrong. [quote]It is still an amazing experience, even if you run out of things to do. So, if you don't like what Destiny has become, go play Monster Hunter, and quit your short sighted bitching and moaning. It's not going to change in the ways you want.[/quote] Well, then we will probably never see a D3 as Activision won't gamble on a third installment with current numbers and consumer satisfaction where it currently is at. And Bungie will either be bought and cannibalized by Activision, or left wondering out in the cold hoping another big Triple A publisher opens their doors to them for their next "big" "epic" game "idea". Because, and I am not certain you know this, but: game development costs money. No one interested in buying a game = no money from publisher to develop = no game. [quote]D1 is not coming back.[/quote] Well, to be fair it is not gone - I still have it on my console and can play it anytime I want, so...
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  • Editado por SparkyMark_: 2/10/2018 2:27:01 AM
    [quote]All right! A generalization followed up by a subjective claim without any evidence! Wow, we are off to an excellent start with this one, folks![/quote] What evidence do I need? I am being general because the specifics take too much space, and frankly, no one is going to read it. Why do people like simple? Because it's a more relaxing activity. Some people play video games to relax, and simple helps that. There, that's specific. [quote]LOL - Then I guess we have not seen a "masterpiece" in some time! But in all honesty, not living up to your previous game is the problem here, not some vague argument that "nothing is perfect, so stop complaining" premise. Because that just makes no sense at all.[/quote] It's not a premise, it's a statement. It's vague because, again, doesn't need to be specific.I'm saying that games are not perfect. All games have flaws. Live with it. Complaining does little, unless it involves down voting on Reddit...but even that did very little in the long run. [quote]Yup! I did try. Sadly, their "proactive" attempts were designed around making their jobs easier, not taking risks and implementing changes intent on game improvement overall. Their "reactive" changes have been, for the most part, horrid attempts at calming a dissatisfied consumer base. Either way you look at it, neither approach is at all noble in either intent or execution.[/quote] Subjective, subjective, subjective. To each their own. They made a gorgeous, fun game. "We are trying to make it nice for EVERYONE so we can move on from the bitching." That's all they need to say. [quote]Well, if we were talking about D1 Year 3, I would agree with you. But considering Bungie reduced the scope of their game for easier management, I would say your argument is flawed from the start there. Also, your "minority segment" appears to be greater than you anticipate consider the daily numbers[/quote] I didn't say it had bigger or better scope than D1, just that it was significant, and worthy of their praise. The number of people who are extremely dissatisfied and posting hate messages on internet forums are significant, but it is still a minority of the population that Bungie markets itself to. [quote]Gamers in general are what Bungie is going for here, not just the "hard core" crowd. And they failed to capture the majority in either category. Also, if "hard core gamers" were in the thousands, this market would not exist.[/quote] Do the math. Millions of people. Thousands of posts from the hard core. Minority [quote]I did. You are wrong.[/quote] I'm almost never wrong. I pride myself on being right when I post on forums. [quote]Well, then we will probably never see a D3 as Activision won't gamble on a third installment with current numbers and consumer satisfaction where it currently is at. And Bungie will either be bought and cannibalized by Activision, or left wondering out in the cold hoping another big Triple A publisher opens their doors to them for their next "big" "epic" game "idea". Because, and I am not certain you know this, but: game development costs money. No one interested in buying a game = no money from publisher to develop = no game.[/quote] We'll see in 2020. I bet you're wrong. [quote]Well, to be fair it is not gone - I still have it on my console and can play it anytime I want, so[/quote] You know what I meant. D1 is gone, as far as what it had within it, and what D2 has within it. D1 will also never be played again like it once was. Just like no one plays Halo like they used to. Or Goldeneye. Or Mortal Kombat. Or Doney Kong. Games will always run their course. There, you made points...I had a rebuttal for all of them. Try again.

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  • [quote]There, you made points...I had a [b]piss poor[/b] rebuttal for all of them. [b]I should[/b] try again.[/quote] FTFY

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