There is no way that they can come back.
Once you defeat an Ascendant Hive into the real world and into their Ascendant Realm, they are done. Oryx knew that and he wrote it into the Books of Sorrow.
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This rule is made clear in the books of Sorrow. But those same Books also describe Oryx bringing Xivu Wrath and Savathun back after their true deaths by appealing to their spheres of influence: war and cunning, respectively. By the same logic, Savathun or Xivu Arath may be able to bring Oryx back by committing a powerful act of curiosity/discovery in his name.
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No, Xivu and Savathun were killed in the [b]throne world of Oryx[/b]. They did not die in their own thrones. A true death just means that the death was in the sword world (ascendant realm) and by the sword logic with the victor taking their power for themselves.
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[quote]No, Xivu and Savathun were killed in the [b]throne world of Oryx[/b]. They did not die in their own thrones. A true death just means that the death was in the sword world (ascendant realm) and by the sword logic with the victor taking their power for themselves.[/quote] Okay, see this is where I get confused. Touch of malice is created using the sword logic right? Shouldn't we have taken oryx and even Crota(if he had any) powers for ourselves?
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http://db.destinytracker.com/d1/grimoire/activities/raids/kings-fall We don't follow Sword Logic or the Deep/Darkness. If we had taken their power it would likely corrupt us, we would become like the Hive.
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Yup. This.