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3/1/2016 3:06:45 AM
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Sniping takes barely any skill. Whether it spraying body shots, body shot then primary, or leveling the scope on corners. It's too easy. People cling on to their easy sniping to believe they might actually have some sort of skill. It's easy though. Shotgunning was and is harder.
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Wow dumbest shit I've ever read on here... Lol
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Why??? Because you need easy mode sniping to do slightly above average???
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It's always someone with thousands upon thousands of more shotgun kills than anything else that complains lol we all know what you never put down all of year one..;P
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And we all know that it's snipers that cling on to their easy mode sniping. Each defends their own. Only shotguns have received nerf upon nerf. And so has everything else while sniping remains untouched. Making it easier and easier to snipe (which was never hard in the first place). And it's only snipers that cry on every post trying to prevent buffs for the other weapons. You guys want to keep your overpowered advantage.
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Only sniper I touch is the NLB... People want to add sway that thing already does, people want to add descoping while getting shot at it doesn't have a scope, people want to add flinching that thing kicks like a mother -blam!-er, I'm neither for or against nerfs to snipers I'm going to keep my same load out no matter what and still land head shots.. Lol.. I just love reading these post about hate on snipers and 9/10 the person has more shotgun kills... That's how snipers felt all of year one with shot package and hammer forged... Shotguns got nerfed because people didn't know how to put them down which caused Bungie to notice the overpower with those two perks I listed.. If the same thing happens to snipers by all means..:) I just love that shotgun bad kids rage.. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside..;P
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Year 1 snipers were just as bad. Final round. Double down. Praedyth revenge. Shotguns feel like you guys? You guys don't know what it's like to constantly get your weapon class nerfed because of incompetent players who whine about everything. My problem isn't with sniping. It's with people saying it takes some sort of skill. That not everyone can do it (but everyone does). The issues with are that everything else sucks and everyone thinks they are good now cause of that.
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I feel your frustration with that no doubt... I hate seeing the 1K stare all the time just as much as you do, but the difference with me is I blame Bungie a bit more than I do the player for that.. It was a free weapon given to everyone and really the only relative Rez sniping sniper rifle that you can infuse for trials or IB.. Stillpiercer is hunter exclusive, black spindle is an exotic slot and Eireene has terrible scopes (to me personally not to everyone) so yeah that really just leaves the 1K stare for everyone to use and use and use some more... Final round would make my blood boil when I heard those shots fired off because it was cheap and the PR and supremacy would piss me off because of the quick double tap to the body from body shot bad kids.. Lol.. THAT TOOK NO SKILL! Head shots to me at least with the no land do take more skill... And yes you got the guys that hard scope hallways or head glitch but that's in every FPS... But when people blame the 1K stare and say it's a crutch or has crazy aim assist to me they just sound salty and don't really know how snipers work.. It's actually an average ass sniper.. Shadow of Veils had way more aim assist and no one complained about that and it's the damn near same archetype of sniper lol.. Hereafter has the highest aim assist in the game right now followed by weylorans March and glass promo.. No one complains about them... Everyone just gets mad that it's "overpowered" when in reality it's just "overused" and what Bungie does to fix that I'm interested in seeing..
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People will complain and try to nerf everything (that's where shit goes downhill). But like I stated before I'm just annoyed at the surge in snipers due to everything getting nerfed. I just want the other secondaries to be viable again. Fusions and Shotguns are beyond crap now due to unnecessary nerfs. Primaries are weak. I've died more times to body shots from snipers than precision. It's ridiculous. The meta is just really slow and it bothers me to hell.
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Shotgun=skill HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Did you stop to think that maybe it's because every other weapon has been utterly ruined in comparison? If this forum had any common sense they would be unilaterally calling for buffs to those weapons. As of right now, the only optimal weapon to harass snipers with is Scout Rifles. It used to be that Pulse Rifles and to a lesser extent Hand Cannons could keep Snipers out of that mid range. THAT is why they [i]seem[/i] OP: Sniper players have NOTHING to fear in mid range, because most of those options have been butchered due to stupid nerf posts! The only thing you can do effectively now is to either flank them, or accost them with Scout Rifles.
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I know that's why they are good now. And I'm not calling for a nerf. I'm just tired of people saying it "takes skill". If we want to get technical everything takes skill. But sniping isn't something hard. It's easy to use and extremely effective with little to no downside [u]no matter the range.[/u] The more lethal a weapon the harder it should be to use. Snipers don't go by that rule. They used to. But not since everything got nerfed to shit.
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[quote]Did you stop to think that maybe it's because every other weapon has been utterly ruined in comparison? If this forum had any common sense they would be unilaterally calling for buffs to those weapons. As of right now, the only optimal weapon to harass snipers with is Scout Rifles. It used to be that Pulse Rifles and to a lesser extent Hand Cannons could keep Snipers out of that mid range. THAT is why they [i]seem[/i] OP: Sniper players have NOTHING to fear in mid range, because most of those options have been butchered due to stupid nerf posts! The only thing you can do effectively now is to either flank them, or accost them with Scout Rifles.[/quote] Couldn't have said it better myself sir, we need buffs not nerfs.
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Editado por Mango: 3/1/2016 4:02:05 AMShotgunning is hard NOW. Its was just like how snipers are now, easy an takes no skill.
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Considering Last Word has always been a thing. No it hasn't.
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[quote]Considering Last Word has always been a thing. No it hasn't.[/quote] Last word is not a shotgun, you're statement makes no sense.
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Last Word is a perfect counter to a shotgun. So yea. It does make sense. Nice try though.
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Body shot sniping doesn't take any skill but nailing consistent head shots does
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Anyone that uses 1,000 yard stare knows this is not true. I'm not a sniper by nature and even I have no problem getting head shots, and I'm always amazed at how easy it is. And in all kinds of crazy situations I have no business hitting the head; when people are jumping sliding blinking etc. It basically hits the head for you if you are even close.
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I tend to use a pulse rifle, sniper rifle, and sword. I actually have skill with all three of these and don't think snipers are op in this game.
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It doesn't really. Find a decent sniper with a short scope and hidden hand. Level off your scope and shoot away.
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Hidden Hand makes ZERO difference. It's a placebo: I have a 1K Stare I just got with Ambush, Snapshot and Hidden Hand. If ANYTHING is making a difference it is Snapshot, but even then it requires a lot of precise movement to hit the player quickly. I still miss if I am not on point.
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It helps keep the you on target. Of course anything with target acquisition helps. Yes. Hidden hand helps with shots in general.
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It's MINUSCULE. I switch between my original 1KS, and this one, and the biggest game changer isn't Hidden Hand. It's Snapshot, without question. Snapshot makes the rifle more agile, and allows you to make those adjustments more fluidly.
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It depends on if you are running and sniping or hard scoping and sniping. Hidden hand helps the guy hard scoping, it basically locks the head even more and tracks your rectical. Snapshot is obviously better for mobile snipers like you that run and gun and use quick scope more. I would argue that both mechanics are ridiculous. These are sniper rifles for gods sake. It's not supposed to be this easy.
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Editado por Boomstick1911: 3/1/2016 4:28:16 PMLet me explain it again: [i]Other weapons are underpowered.[/i] They have been nerfed to the point where there is nothing that can challenge snipers consistently. If anything is ridiculous, it's the notion of nerfing yet another entire weapon class into the dirt. Get that through your head.
