http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/06/17/what-looks-awesome-and-awful-about-destinys-the-taken-king/
http://lowbrowcomics.com/2015/06/17/dont-buy-taken-king/
Just read those articles, Bungie. Some of your greatest heralds have turned their horns towards your Jericho, and I can only hope the walls come down.
In essence, Veteran packs/VIP rewards (black sparrow, all-black shader, Lynx emblem) should be FREE and only accessible if you played before a certain time (either before TDB or year one in general). The new emotes, special class shaders and class items could and probably should be included in the veteran kit too. Those don't warrant an $80 purchase! They should be fan service!
Year-oners should be able to buy a collector's edition for $45 (TTK + Collectors Items) if they already have every other DLC. Whether that's digital or physical should not matter, they cost the same and should be entitled to the same bonus loot. Make it so digital buyers can redeem a code or something to have the physical bonuses sent to them or available for pickup. If someone is buying the $80 dollar kit for all available content, the same should apply. Digital and physical BOTH get the physical bonus.
EVERYONE should be able to buy TTK regardless of if they have the previous DLCs or not. If someone just wants one expansion, why limit them? Is it [i]your[/i] money leaving their wallets, Bungie?
The Vanguard Armory is a lie—it's not useful (green weapons), and it's not [i]early access[/i], because that would mean at a later point everyone would have access to it. It's not a worthy pre-order bonus; it's bait, and you should be ashamed of yourselves for including it again.
I dunno what else to say. At every turn you have lured us in with something promising or cool, only to turn around and screw every pooch possible. This time you didn't even wait until the DLC dropped.
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Side argument: So [i]now[/i] you want to make bonds look good? When you're forcing us to pay $80 to acquire them? I know this is an old argument but bonds should have always looked like the collector's one. How else are we to compete with cloaks and marks? For -blam!-ing shame.
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Edit: added a Forbes article too. It isn't looking good, Bungievision.
Edit 2: this thread was trending, but Bungie is trying to mute us by removing this thread from trending. Cute.
Edit 3: from Aktovus:
[quote]It won't let me favorite this thread.[/quote]
They are literally blocking our progress. How is this healthy for the company-player relationship? Or is this a dictatorship, where only praises of Bungie are allowed? This appears to be cycled, as some can still like the thread, maybe that's how they censor popular threads.
Edit 4: favoriting doesn't seem to be the issue, but there are still several threads out there created TODAY that are popular, yet missing from trending, example thread is one by Lost Sols
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9 RespuestasEditado por Malphisto: 8/14/2015 9:55:51 AMHonestly, we already know that Year 1 was nothing more than a giant ass Beta test. There was LESS in the released game than there was for the Alpha Build for crying out loud. That being said, they still got to profit off of us and we basically spent $100 for an incomplete product that was not worth its price tag. The new $60 TTK Legendary Edition is what SHOULD have been sold a year ago to everyone, and to make matters worse, adding insult to injury is the total lack of compensation for this. [b]"But you had a year's worth of great memories!"[/b] No, many certainly did NOT have that kind of experience. It was a giant chore for many. [b]"Well, there was plenty to do in the game."[/b] No, wrong again. The majority of this game's playtime was attributed to grinding for weapons and armor, the bulk of which (Legendary Gear) is now apparently being frozen in time with no plans to further ascend it. So quite literally we spent all that money and all that time for nothing. Just a huge waste of time and energy. [b]"But now you'll be ready for when you play TTK!"[/b] It has already been confirmed that common GREEN weapons will end up replacing our Legendary ones in an hour or so after playing TTK. Likewise, new players are getting a so called Booster that lets them jump right into the new content from the get go. So no, there is literally no advantage or bright side to being a Year 1 player. [b]"But you'll be able to use those weapons to buff the new ones!"[/b] That's just insulting... We spend how many hours getting these weapons for the sake of straight up sacrificing them for new ones that it will take all of a few hours to obtain? Awesome, yeah I TOTALLY see how that magically makes everything better... (*Sarcasm*) [b]"Well you can still use the old weapons for the old content?"[/b] Are you stupid? You're introducing ALL of these new weapons that you KNOW people are going to be getting, you're not expanding player Vault Space, and you expect people to hold onto their old stuff that serves no purpose in the newer content for the game? Seriously? No, you are engineering the game to make all of our old stuff obsolete for no other reason than the Max Damage stat being higher which is -blam!-ing lazy as hell. So no, this is not an appropriate response. [b]"You could always keep the old gear as trophies?"[/b] Don't patronize us. We certainly don't deserve that. Keep them as a trophy how and for what? What reason would we want to keep them around for prosperity? To remind us of how we got dicked around for an entire year like a bunch of ignorant, hopeful assholes praying for the game to get better and instead of you improving it you're just outright recreating the entire thing from scratch and selling something completely different? Because that is what TTK is, that Legendary Edition is an entirely NEW Destiny game which seriously gives no concessions at all for the older players. A damn year long Beta Test where we served as guinea pigs for the purpose of making a perfected product. (And even then its STILL NOT PERFECT because you're STILL NOT FIXING KEY PROBLEMS! Ex: Optional Matchmaking, Vault Space, Open World - You know damn well what I'm talking about with that. That shit in that interview was a damn lie, that stupid "Turn Back" warning message is proof of that) [b]"Sorry, but this is how MMOs work."[/b] Bungie has formally declared multiple times that Destiny is not an MMO. It is, above all first and foremost, a First Person Shooter. And like any other FPS game, players don't expect the weapons or armor that they spent the time to unlock and acquire to stop being relevant for the game's future content. [b]"It might not be a straight up MMO, but it does have MMO qualities."[/b] Good for them? I don't even know why that would be said, what the hell is your point? Destiny is NOT an MMO. FACT. I don't care what concepts they tried using or this whole Shared World Shooter notion, its not World of Warcraft. It will NEVER be World of Warcraft or any other MMORPG. It is an FPS game. Period. *Drops the Mic. and walks away*
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I had to buy both the dlc' a second time because apparently I didn't buy them when I got the season pass
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umm in all seriousness bungie doesn't owe anyone anything. also they can charge what they want for whatever they want and you nor anyone else can do anything about it complaining is just silly, if you don't agree with the way bungie or activision is doing things then leave and never buy their products again. it is just that simple. the only way companies understand is when they start losing money. if you vote with your wallet then they might notice, but you would need millions of players not buying these things just to get them to notice. Even that might not bother them, so its a hit or miss thing.
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1 RespuestaBump. Keep fighting the good fight friend.
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By the power of Bungie, I give veterans content!
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if bungie had it their way we wouldn't read a damn thing until the weekly update comes by.
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3 Respuestasyour preaching to the converted man but this was coming the moment they teamed up with Activision because they do that with pretty much all of their games now that they publish more specifically call of shitty which has been a dlc game for awhile now bungie had alot of potential to create a wonderful game especially when they made a very in-depth games series before yet they decided to team up with Activision even though they needed no help from them to begin with because they made the halo series without their help why start now but anyway i digress the point is that bungie has gave nothing to players but insist on taking hard earned cash and dishing out a dlc i could have made on pc modding writing scripts, meshes and so on ( no i dont mod destiny) its really starting to get old i remember a dlc item that bungie came out with at the release of reach everyone remembers the flaming helmet shit that was better that what they are doing now but i feel all of this is Activisions doing they stopped being pushed around by Microsoft to only fall into the arms of another bully one far more worse than the previous one
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6 RespuestasNot trying to be rude......................Game developers have to make money to feed their families to. The money we all have payed has gone directly to the main Co's of the company not to the people who spent thousands of hours developing the game you play...these little class items that cost so much money helps devs bonuses which is there main income if you want to even call it that... do some research on how the development teams make there money and how 80% of that money they never see...
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Is there a maximum number of times I can dislike this?
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Oh, this is about the Collector's Edition? This is pretty much insignificant right? I mean, if the early access guns are greens, why do you care about them? They'll be useless in a week. All the VIP rewards are just special items for players who've been around a while. People who start playing Destiny next year won't even be able to get them. Is this the straw the breaks the camels back? I'm really surprised that this is a concern.
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yea you know what im done with this game going to buy fallout 4 bet you that game will be infinitely better than this and you can mod it even on console
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you mean terrible and not useful weapons XD maybe the rerolled sniper but thats it other than that useless in comparison to other legendarys
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Vanguard Armory is Green and Purple weapons.
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Agreed, BUMP. The economic mood swings are giving me whiplash
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Good reads, both of 'em.
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Preach.
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Bungie need to tell Activision to go fûck them selves!