Those noobs first have to be level 28 to even attempt a weekly heroic/nightfall. To get full gear from Vanguard they have to play a lot if strikes and bounties. Then they have to level items. If they are kinda noob then they probably have one character so they can play one weekly each time. So if they are geared up to play weekly heroic/nightfall are they still noob? Real noobs probably don't even know what icebreaker is :P And maybe if some are kited by die hard players then they still don't have the same skills. A die hard player also has his exotics upgraded. I don't care what kind of weapons everybody has. It's more important how you use them.
PS: If you want die hard no noob gear. Get gear from (hard mode) raids. I rather have my Legendary Fatebringer with arc then any other exotic handcannon. Or my VoC then any exotic scout.
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