"Nothing created something, which lead to the creation of everything"
What the atheist argument sounds like. Nothing is no thing! It has no power, no energy, no life, wait, it isn't even an IT, again Nothing is NO THING. So how can nothing create? Does it make any sense to you or do you truly wonder if there is a God out there?
God Himself has no origin, He is beyond our understanding as creatures.
God is the only one who has the power of Creation, to create something out of nothing. In fact if God created something than that something did not come from nothing, but rather from God.
Check out this article about the scientific theories of creation and how it can contradict science itself.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=4584
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Atheism is the belief that there is no God. They believe that there is no God because they oppose Faith. If God can't be seen than He must not exist. Yet it is impossible for an atheist to truly confirm that there is no God because their eyes and experience is limited by life on earth and earthly science, they have not seen all the areas of the universe and the realms of existence to PROVE GOD DOES NOT EXIST. If God is unseen, does that mean He does not exist? Absolutely not. The atheist best answer to the existence of God should not be "No" but rather I do not "Know".
Think about that...
Edit: Considering the law of conservation of energy, the energy itself could very well have no origin, because it came from God Himself who has no origin.
The law states: Energy can be neither created nor destroyed
So I believe that the energy quite possibly was not created but rather "exerted" by God.
Wow!
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3 RepliesEdited by Trad: 12/24/2014 10:33:25 PMWell, this is the only thread about this stuff today that hasn't sounded [i]too much[/i] like bait, so I'll give you a serious response. [quote]"Nothing created something, which lead to the creation of everything" What the atheist argument sounds like. [/quote] I can understand why you'd label it an atheist argument through association, but it's not an argument out of atheism. Secondly, we know things within the universe to typically follow causality, however we cannot say we know the same for things predating whatever creation event you subscribe to, simply because we have no objective knowledge of what went on "then". For all we know, everything outside of the universe is acausal. So again, it's not an argument from Atheism. The only people that are asserting with absolute certainty that something arose from nothing, are just as bad as the theists asserting that whatever god they believe in created everything with absolute certainty. [quote]Check out this article about the scientific theories of creation and how it can contradict science itself. http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=12&article=4584[/quote] I don't think I've ever ran across a link to an apologetic site that didn't end up either wrong, wasted my time because it ended up coming from a troll, wasted my time because it talked about things I've already reviewed myself, or any mixture of the three. So if you could provide me a summarization, I'd appreciate it. [quote]Atheism is the belief that there is no God. They believe that there is no God because they oppose Faith.[/quote] No, that's what we'd call a strawman argument. People do not believe in deities for a variety of reasons, and while an opposition to faith is one of those, it is not the sole reason for each atheist. It'd be similar to me saying that every theist believes in a deity simply because they're scared of death, which obviously is not true. [quote]Yet it is impossible for an atheist to truly confirm that there is no God because their eyes and experience is limited by life on earth and earthly science, they have not seen all the areas of the universe and the realms of existence to PROVE GOD DOES NOT EXIST.[/quote] I think you're associating atheism with strictly "strong atheism", and not the small variety it comes in. Strong atheism suggests what you just assumed there, which is that there is no god. "Soft atheism", much like agnosticism (it's pretty much agnosticism honestly, but you're not an agnostic without being atheist really, it's a weird spot where definitions overlap. Some people aren't comfortable with it.) is simply that people are not convinced a deity exists. They aren't making the assertion that they don't exist. [quote]If God can't be seen than He must not exist....If God is unseen, does that mean He does not exist? Absolutely not. The atheist best answer to the existence of God should not be "No" but rather I do not "Know". [/quote] A bit strawman-ish again, but nothing really revolutionary here regardless. [quote]Think about that... [/quote] Bit of a side note: I find it funny that many theistic arguments have this exact sentence in them. It's almost like you have some sort of literal playbook to take notes out of before you venture out and try to "save the damned." [quote]So I believe that the energy quite possibly was not created but rather "exerted" by God. [/quote] For which there is, at best, nearly equal to or clearly less proof for this argument compared to any creation hypothesis based within science. I think the summary of your post would go as follows: - Make some strawmen. - Gather misinformed details. - Make a conclusion, but do not back up the conclusion. Work on those, and you might get something.