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Thoughts and Opinions about The Dark Below weapon upgrade paths.

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  • Please, tell the person who made the decision to reset upgrade to resign his position. I'm not going to upgrade the shitty exotic now, come house of wolves dlc the same thing is going to happen again, basically every few months we have reset the progression in order to -blam!-ing PROGRESS. WHAT THE -blam!- IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS

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  • Please, please don't go through with this! I know you at bungie are listening to us and are seeing everything on the forums. It's clear most players [b]do not[b] want to reset their exotics. I have spent a lot of time and grinding to get my exotics where they are now. No one wants to lose their progress. Please, many people like the idea of a final upgrade slot in which would take a very long time and a lot of effort to upgrade and keep their gun how it is. Please listen to what the gamers want. That's what I have to day. Good day to you and fellow bungie employes.

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  • Wow... Bend over destiny players, here comes bungie and they forgot the lube... again

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  • So, it appears my post got deleted...so here it is again. DeeJ, Not gonna lie, I don't look forward to having to rank up my exotic that I [u]just[/u] got to nearly max all over again. I mean, I'm totally fine with needing to do something special to get the upgraded version. Maybe Xur could sell a new node or something (like what XiX GhOsTx XiX said)...but that's a lot of effort that I've put into my current exotics that will have been lost. In fact, this could be a good thing for the smith to do. We could take max items to him and he could use his esoteric expertise to open up just one more level of "efficiency". Just to be clear, I like the changes in general and love that we've got more. I always love more to do. Who knows, maybe my old weapons won't matter when I get my hands on the new ones...but I feel like I worked hard to rank up my ghallahorn, and epilogue, and patience & time, and all my armor...and many other items. It seems a shame to lose all that time.

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  • Game will be dead in less than 10 months.

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  • Does the exotic armor upgrade path increase the light level? If not, wtf?

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  • Edited by jimmymare: 12/4/2014 2:33:26 AM
    Hi Bungie and DeeJ Fullest appreciation and good job on prolonging the exotics by having them to have higher def/att values. That said, the 7k glimmer, exotic shard and reset are kind of not "optional" and hard to accept. Being gamers facing a lvl 30 nightfall, harder raid and all - which of you guys would not upgrade it to higher stats? Its not optional at all and the economics behind it are too high and time wastage to max it again. We lost a lot of time and efforts to get those energies and shards pumped into those exotics in the past; why punish us for using them in the past and they are gone because of unacceptable changes in the economy. You should not devalue an item's worth within the economy because everyone has them; how would people feel if a dollar today worths nothing tomorrow? Compensate our resets in exotics upon upgrades with less glimmer cost or give us back the invested shards and energies in those exotics at a start. We supported you since day 1. Don't rob us of our efforts and time for the sake of prolonging the Destiny experience with grinding as replacement. Lastly, I dislike the Commendation redemption system for new and more powerful legendary gears. Again with the 'more grinding required' to play lvl 30 nightfall and new raids.. so all my legendaries are a forgone investments? My 2 cents for your consideration- from a guy with MBA. Improve the economy of the game with a balanced risk/reward system.. please avoid crashing the economy with the excuse of prolonging our gaming hours and make it much more draining and repeat what we did 3 months back. Show us that you care for loyal fans like me. Thanks.

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  • These devs coming up with these idea's are they even fitted for this kind of job?

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  • Edited by tdannay: 12/4/2014 12:27:20 AM
    I'm going to swim against the current and say that I like the way this is being handled. To those who argue that this is "artifically extending the game," try playing any MMO ever. That's part of the satisfaction of games - taking the time to build and improve a character. If they forced you into this, it would be crazy, but the reality is that you get to choose whether your progress gets reset. Either the upgrade is worth your time or it isn't - you are free to decide. I happen to be excited to get started on The Last Word, which I had previously feared would become obsolete with these updates. Interesting that so many people want everyone else to "earn" everything, except when they don't.

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    • Edited by The Givenchy: 12/4/2014 2:26:17 AM
      Ughhh. I really do not want to have to upgrade my preferred weapons again.. Im already behind in upgrading alot of the weapons Im accumulating because I havent been lucky enough to get ascendant energy drops. Ive been pretty happy with the game up until this point... but having to do what Ive already done and spend more time on the same gun is ridiculous. Basically you're just telling me that the time and effort I spent upgrading my weapons means jack all to you

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      • This isn't directly addressing the upgrade path but since I didn't see any relevant thread on the recent preview of the dark below here it is,... Why would you need an accommodation to purchase gear? That seems like another roadblock hindering gamers progress. Not only did we have to wait a week or more to purchase gear with points but now you physically have to level each faction up another level just to purchase something? After most of us are level 3+ on our vendors already are we getting those extra accommodations ? I don't see the point, other then to artificially expand total hours played, to even implementing a system like that.

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      • Seriously has no one here ever played MMO type games? I know some people dispute whether or not Destiny is an MMO, but it definitely has those elements. Every time a new expansion drops, all of your old gear becomes irrelevant. You must acquire new gear for the new expansion. This is no different, yet everybody is complaining. I don't get it. At least they're giving us a way to keep using and keep upgrading our gear we already have.

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        • Edited by Cmdr X27: 12/4/2014 2:34:55 AM
          It's ALL wrong! Requiring "raid weapon upgrades" to need materials you can ONLY get from the "Crota's End' raid" and the "upgrade undoing 'reforging" of "exotic" "equipment" is sheer lunacy that will throw EVERYTHING off balance! And, on top of that, if you're going to INSIST on us spending our hard earned "coins" to upgrade our "exotics", then make "strange coins" more plentiful and STOP people doing "the weekly strike" three times with three different characters and coming out 27 "coins" richer! I REALLY want to like this game, but, so far, pretty much EVERYTHING you and your fellow "devs" have done to "update" the game has made it a more frustrating experience. So, unless you get your act together and act on the wishes of "the community" (i.e. make the game BETTER NOT WORSE), I'm going to get rid of "Destiny" and NEVER buy another game with your company's name in the "credits" again!

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        • Progress reset to upgrade an exotic is absolute horse crap. I spent resources, glimmer, and 18 energy to max out my Ice Breaker. Why not just offer a tier upgrade for old exotics at the cost of one exotic shard without the reset? Adding a commendation just to purchase gear or weapons is ridiculous. For instance, I'm leveling Dead Orbit faction through PVE. Dead Orbit gear takes Crucible marks. PVE gives me Vanguard marks. How can I spend Vanguard marks when I need a Vanguard commendation, which you can only get by hitting the next reputation level of Vanguard. Pretty clear this game is catering more to hardcores every day. I find myself playing less and less every week due to the insane grind and reptetitiveness. Dark Below is only going to further that grind. I have Last of Us, GTA V, Lego Marvel sitting on my PS4 shelf that I haven't popped in. Time to get started on those great games.

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        • This kinda has to do with the new DLC so I'll post it here! Basically I've encountered the Swords of Crota random event multiple times now and wielded that beautiful ass weapon, but for some reason after it goes away my look sensitivity seems to shoot up! Like I always play on 3 and whenever I check my options when this happens the number never changes, but until I go to orbit I have some weird slightly speed up look sensitivity! Has this happened to anyone else??

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        • I like the new stuff but I have already spend a lot of time investing in these exotics and you want me to scrub that and start again. No way that is just bullshit. Why not put up a sign that says we needed to find a way to extend this further so redo the grind you have already done. I have essentially already wasted those new exotic shards I got this week to Max my now buffed weapons for you to go "Hey guess what it's really exciting you need to spend all that xp, materials and time again plus that shard you just wasted." No offence bungie but whoever told you this was a good idea was a -blam!-ing arse. Re grinding on the same items over ground already covered is just shit.

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        • Tell whoever came up with this idea to choke on a dick till they die.

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        • Love it! Thanks for always making the game better!

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        • Honestly, I just want my nonraid legendaries to be upgradeable like the raid ones. Probably in a manner similar or identical to what's going to go down with exotics. I mean, otherwise getting the other legendaries is trivial and a waste of time.

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        • I also don't understand the commendation process. Don't they know me already? Level 14 rep with vanguard, but I have to somehow still prove something? Hey guardian, wow, what a legend. ..what's your name again?

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        • Deej, tell your guys we don't want to redo all our weapons. The dedicated players should keep what they played for. Figure out a better way. Makes me want to quite and I love this game.

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        • so basically anyone that took an exotic to the final upgrade since the recent change to this announcement is actually screwed and they wasted their coins, exotic shards. and thats fine ? are you serious bungie ? do you have any respect for your players ?

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        • change it

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        • Hard to believe an upgrade will take away all the time and effort I invested on the weapons. :S

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        • I really don't mind the grind, Bungie. I think that is apparent by the number of exotic weapons and armor I have collected and the amount of time and in-game resources I have spent to fully upgrade them. I also don't mind you giving other (new) players an opportunity to "catch up" to me, when the Dark Below releases, by allowing them to take their un-upgraded exotics along to Xur and paying to get them to the higher Attack / Defence levels. What I do have a [b]massive[/b] problem with is you showing no respect for the time, effort and resources that I have put in to getting my weapons to a fully upgraded status! I get no benefit whatsoever over someone who has put zero time into their Gjallahorn, while I have put countless hours and materials to get it fully upgraded. I should not have to pay Xur for the pleasure of more grind when I've already completed the grind! At the very least, I should not have to pay the glimmer and exotic shards cost of handing in a fully upgraded weapon for refitting. Please don't disrespect the time and effort people have put into your game - we should be rewarded, not punished, for our ongoing involvement and effort in your game!

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        • Edited by Amorphis_Fi: 12/4/2014 2:20:13 AM
          So for every expansion you got we have to start everything all over again? I guess if I receive an exotic I wont bother leveling them since next expansion a big reset. Its good system really I like.

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