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12/3/2014 9:18:22 PM
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Thoughts and Opinions about The Dark Below weapon upgrade paths.

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  • DeeJ, are the new commendations transferable to other characters? Thanks.

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  • Am I wrong in assuming that once the exotic upgrade is applied to our current (maxed or not) exotics, it will raise the base attack to 300? Essentially resetting/maxing it to 300. If that's the case, Bungie should have written it out like that. If that's not the case- meh. At least old exotics don't become worthless that way.

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    • I don't mind grinding to level up exotics, but its still a little disappointing.

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    • I think its better than typical mmo system that makes them all useless. I really dont want to destroy any and im glad they will be relevant in the future.

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    • This new exotic upgrade system is bollix, no primary weapons until January more bollix. I hope the have a last minute design change for what's going on

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    • My question is this: do you even play your own game?

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    • Starting to think microsoft is who made halo the awesome game it was, not bungie. All they're doing is showing they don't give two shits about people as long as they get their money! No wonder joe and Marty left!!!!!! I wouldn't want my name on this piece of crap either!!!!

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      • I think a lot of people are assuming what the exotic resets are actually going to be doing... Deej, it would be nice if you could shed some light and help us out on this issue. Will people still be able to obtain the older exotics from xur? Or from drops? If so it doesn't make sense to let people have them if they're going to need to be reset after one full max to be fully maxed. I've been hoping for Xur to sell ice breaker for the longest time since I didn't have enough coins the last time he sold it, and it would be a pity to buy if a new exotic came out a week later rendering the ice breaker useless. I just want to know if the weapons will actually be completely reset.

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      • Can't wait for Witcher 3 I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER BUNGIE TITLE

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        • No way it's taken days/weeks for us to upgrade our gear. Just add the nodes onto what we've done already! Items from The Dark Below we'll have to start from scratch anyway so they're irrelevant. No need to destroy our achievements because of the new content. I'll be waiting to buy the DLC now because if this goes live i'd rather buy another game than upgrade ALL of my exotic gear again. And i'm not a complainer - I don't even post on the forums unless i'm looking for a raid team but this has just wound me up enough to have a my say.

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        • Bungie to players: we don't care about this game. Thanks for the cash.

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          • Can you at least get the dev team to admit that they buffed the exotics so we would be more inclined to level them again? The fact that Bungie thinks I should have to redo old/tired bounties and strikes so I can re-level exotics (which I have to level separately because of that stupid one exotic at a time rule) is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I defended the lack of story and the grinding in the beginning, but this is ridiculous.

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          • The idea of a vanguard commendation is absolutely ridiculous. There's literally no point to having that. If we have the correct rank and marks needed, why make it that much harder to allow us to buy something? Other than that, new raid stuff sounds good except for the fact that we can't obtain primary weapons unless on hard mode? Another stupid thing. I understand certain weapons not dropping but we should be able to get at least one of each weapon type in normal mode.

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          • Why not make the upgrade FREE if its a maxed out exotic.. instead we have to wait for rng xur to say im upgrading that then pay him 1 exotic shard then start leveling it again by paying more glimmer, materials and another exotic shard. I also feel raid legendarys should get this treatment what was the point of doing vog over and over for VoC or FB if they're going to be pretty irrelevant from the get go

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            • The other problem is trust. Can we trust BNG to have properly coded this trade function so there is zero bugs. i dont want to hand in a beloved exotic for it to get taken and not replaced or get something inferior. We all know BNG'S take on replacing lost items.

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            • Edited by Crimson Thomas: 12/4/2014 2:42:19 AM
              You people at Bungie must hate your own playerbase. Truly, you must, or you're so poisoned with hubris that your team's vision continues to dim as time stretches forward. Perhaps a bit of both. Contempt, arrogance, or both. I'm not sure which. I have [i]never[/i] seen a developer so deliberately, blatantly alienate and punish their playerbase simply for the sake of artificially extending the time they must play to progress in the game. That's what it boils down to, Bungie, and we all know it, and you're not fooling anyone. You continually add new currencies, new treadmills and grindfests that the players of Destiny must trudge through to progress, just for the sake of keeping them playing because of how barren and shallow the game actually is, and now you slap the entire playerbase in the face by wasting all of the time they've invested in the grinding they've had to do up to this point. Destiny's "story" is laughable. The loot system is still a bad joke. Now, you truly must not want anyone to play Destiny, because you're sending a clear message that it's a monumental waste of time anyway.

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            • You people are wasting your time posting here. They may be "listening" to the community but listening and doing something about it are two totally different thing! There is no way anything can possibly be changed by Tuesday! For god's sake it took them two months to "fix" bad juju and all that was done was remove some green smoke and give it a couple more bullets? Cmon man! Nothing will be done about ANY OF THIS so just stop posting and just stop playing! Obtuse day morning Jason jones and the rest of BUNGIE will strap on their life jackets and climb aboard the S.S. Sucker and drive around the boat load of money they made -blam!-ing people I've these last three months!

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            • Edited by TACCOMGUY: 12/4/2014 2:35:49 AM
              When the new Raid opens will the old Raid (VoG) still be on-going? Will there be a buff to VoG like Nightfall/Weekly to increase the difficulty levels? I'm assuming people who don't get the DLC can still run VoG, I'm just wondering if VoG goes away for DLC owners. Regards TCG

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            • I also just noticed it's pot -blam!-ing luck once a week what exotic you can have reset to being pish again. Wow that's even worse than I first thought. I guarantee that the voidfang vestments will never show up in that selection :)

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            • Wow, I maxed out every exotic weapon in the game except for 3. Even the bad ones. I play a lot, I don't mind a grind, but I think the thing that turns my crank is the massive amount of glimmer involved here. So not only will you have to grind XP, but the glimmer grind will be atrocious. Add that on the top of that I am "that guy" that completed 31 raids and 450 hours without getting any character to level 30 and had to grind one guy to level 4 IB and two to level 3 IB to get 30. I think I have probably ground this game with the best of them. Not sure if I am ready to do it all over again.

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            • Make the exotic upgrades an addition to the skill tree, rather than making us redo all of the upgrades we already grinded for. I had my hopes up because of the last update, now it's one step forwards and two steps back. It will not increase the life span of the DLC. It's just pissing people off and makes me want to play Destiny even less because of all the exotics I leveled up to just be reset. After hearing this, I just want to buy Dragon Age and not have to grind for nothing. And for those saying its a choice to reset, you're mostly wrong because your guns won't do squat in the level 33 raid.

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            • Congratulations, you got from level 0 to level 100 over the last few months but now you can go to 120. Sounds great right! 20 more than what you have now but wait there's more! To get to that 120 we are going to take away your 100 and you have to start all over from 0! Brilliant! This is horrible! Let's wipe everything you have done in order for you to get to that higher attack or defense level. Nope we aren't going to let you work from here we are going to wipe you out to 0! Reset and start over please

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            • Jesus, you just took all my glimmer from the iron banner. Now you expect me to reroll exotics? I'm broke dude

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            • Deej this comment is commin from someone who has played a 10 year old + game from day one, and went through good and bad updates. This update is a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work. Month one was a pain in the ass for ya but u guys are making postive progress. Slow but postive. And to all the haters, things can be way way worse. Next time warn ur player base about drastic changes on things hard to come by. Ppl dont like making unknown mistakes that could have been easily avoides with a heads up. I only waised 1 exotic shard but thats bc i play it safe and im one step ahead of the generl public with my background. Some have waisted more then i. Glad to see this artical released today instead of dlc launch. If that would have been the case u would have a real thorn to deal with. Regards Sith

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            • DeeJ, Destiny, as it stands now, is pretty darn grindy! I am fine with that. I have had fun even when the upgrade grind meant driving my Sparrow in circles on the Moon looking for filaments. I think I enjoyed that experience because of two factors: 1) I extract enough enjoyment from the game-play that even the grind is tolerable and 2) I have been made immune to grind from a long history of MMO play. It's that MMO experience that this Exotic change has me thinking about. The expansions of MMOs would turn all of my gear into, well, vendor trash. I was okay with it there. A new expansion meant new items and more grind. It was what I had signed up for. What is different with Destiny, though, is a matter of time-span. The first expansion for a MMO was typically released a year or more from launch of the base game. The Burning Crusade, for example, was released over two years after the launch of World of Warcraft. Players were given time to upgrade and become used to their gear before it was deprecated. By the time an expansion was released, you were typically ready for it. Destiny, however, was released just under three months ago. Players have not had the time to spend with their gear to make it feel worth it to go through the grind again. The current upgrade plan strikes me as somewhat disrespectful to your players. Bungie expects them to 1) spend extra materials for upgrades they likely already unlocked, 2) spend extra time grinding for upgrades they likely already unlocked, and 3) do all of this on the schedule of a NPC only in the game on the weekend. Coupling all of that with the fact that there appears to be a 3-month plan for expansions built into this game, and, well, you have made all of those steps seem very, very unattractive. There have been a lot of missteps with Destiny already. As of late, though, things have appeared to be going in the right direction. Here, please, please, please listen to the feedback now and save unnecessary changes later.

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              • Please, tell the person who made the decision to reset upgrade to resign his position. I'm not going to upgrade the shitty exotic now, come house of wolves dlc the same thing is going to happen again, basically every few months we have reset the progression in order to -blam!-ing PROGRESS. WHAT THE -blam!- IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS

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