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Thoughts and Opinions about The Dark Below weapon upgrade paths.

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  • [b]The thought of all my legendaries gradually becoming obsolete is deeply saddening.[/b] The legendaries are more varied and less common than the exotics so you can get more attached to a particular weapon with the perfect perks, watching them become collector's items is going to be brutal. I really wish there was a path to upgrade them. [b]Also, why should I play destiny until The Dark Below releases?[/b] -Any progress I make on exotics will need to eventually be reset to enable them to remain viable. Thus making any grinding foolish if I already have strong enough weapons for the dlc. -Any new legendaries I find will be outclassed on the 9th by the new legendaries in the expansion. -At this point the only reason to play would be to stock up on shards/energy (or to level characters/weapons if you are a lower level) I'm a bit bummed out dudes.

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    • Deej...for you. :D

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    • congratulations on alienating 85% of your target market! Seriously you guys get paid to come up with these ideas? I'm certain if you told people plans like this during your £500 mil marketing campaign you wouldn't have got as many sales!! It's a very short sighted business model - grab money up front with some good pr, get more money for dlc content and then screw everyone over! oh wait but we have a 10 year plan errr sorry you just lost everyone before year 1 ended oops

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      • *begin slow clap*

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      • It's a big dick in the ass! -5. Three months of work down the toilet because legendaries are obsolete, hours of leveling exotics pointless because I have to do it over again, leveling up vanguard and factions useless because I have to do it over again to get "commendation points"?!?!?! Wtf did I buy this game for on sept 9th?!?!?! Shoulda just waited until now....SINCE WE HAVE TO START -blam!-ING ALL OVER!!!!!!!!

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      • All sounds good to me! Maybe a few tweaks to have your maxed out exotics re level faster, but other than that I'm in!

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        • you already made me burn how many shards an energies into exotics then poof. this too ? knee jerk waves of huge changes like this with little foresight is bad bad.

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        • Can the upgrade just create a new node that needs 150k exp to max or something?

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        • Someone help me understand. Do we have to rely on xur's RNG to determine which guns we are allowed to upgrade to this new tier? For example, I want to upgrade my hawkmoon. When I go to xur to try, will he allow it? Will he say, "sorry I'm only offering to upgrade suros rifles this week, thanks for playing better luck next week." If so, will hawkmoon/montecarlo be SOL until the timed content hits Xbox? Please, please, please tell me I'm delusional and that is NOT how this works.

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          • So, why the primary raid weapons as hard mode exclusives? That's really annoying, as I wanted to get that AR, but the hard raid is going to have enemies 2 levels higher than the level we can reach! Do you know how many people will be infuriated because of this? Why couldn't you have done it like the VoG where there are some weapons that are exclusive to the hard raid instead and not make the whole set of primaries hard only? Please do change this, along with the stronger exotic path.

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          • I read something earlier not sure who posted really agree with it that they really intend to do this it should just reset the last 4 damage upgrades (say you have a maxed 300 weapon it'll go back to 274 or whatever it is) without having to go all the way back and lose the exotic perks that make them so different i.e pocket infinity full auto, so that the weapons we've become familiar with dont become entirely different again but still costing us a chunk of dmg for the upgrade.

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          • disappointing update as it sounds. i for one dont like the idea of having to reset all my exotic gear especially my armors. but i can deal with that. but if your going to let us reset old exotics to be on par with the new, how about giving use the option to upgrade legendary gear as well. my fav legendary weapons right now are my fatebringer and shadow price. i would like to keep them relevant to my game even if that means i have to start the whole upgrade process again. and being able to upgrade legendary armor would allow guardians to have a more unique and personalized look. as of now every lvl 30 looks the same for the exception of witch exotic they are wearing. one last thing, this has to do xur. will he sell the older exotics at all and will they be at an updated lvl. there are still a few exotics i have not been able to buy or find and i would like to obtain them. and how will upgrading older exotics work? will it be rng? if so that sounds even worse then having to re-level all exotic gear. i would hate to wait on rng to give me the option to upgrade my fav helmet or weapon. if its anything like it has been for warlockls with sunbreakers and voidfang we may see the same upgrades over and over while we wait for those that we really want.

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          • Take out the exotic shard requirement in order to exchange, and just make it so you have to max the exotic before the exchange is available. People have the choice which exotics they want to max, so you're not stiffing them at all, or forcing them to do something that isn't already required.

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          • So the update this week was basically a reset before the reset? -Allow people to buy materials that they had been farming -Force them to use a new material for upgrades that can be acquired through Xur (who wouldn't show up until Friday) or break down duplicates -Once they break down their duplicates and max out their exotics they become base level weapons in a week through a new upgrade system that once again is only attainable through Xur Basically bungie wanted us to break down all of our duplicates so that we couldn't trade those in instead for the upgrade, rather than wasting time and materials to upgrade an exotic, just to turn around and reset it to spend more time and materials to upgrade it. I understand the new upgrade system, and while it is frustrating that my VoC is becoming obsolete... I am more frustrated at the release of the patch on Monday than the details of this new system in the dlc. I doubt DeeJ will respond, but it would be nice to know what the thought process was in releasing the new exotic leveling system in this last patch rather than waiting a week. I'm not referring to the buffs and the fixes in this patch... Just the exotic shard system. Rant over. Sorry for the long read.

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          • Love it deej. Can't wait to get more powerful version of the exotic I have.

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            • I do not like the exotic upgrade system -to get the final upgrade I need to use an exotic shard -to upgrade the 300attack weapon to the higher level will require an exotic shard and another at the end of the upgrade tree? the old exotic upgrade system was fine, why change it? darn it!

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            • For the upgrading through xur loot table, how will we upgrade Playstation exclusives? Will they be added to his loot table for this specific thing??

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            • It should only require another damage upgrade and a second exotic shard not starting all over. That's hours and hours and hours of gameplay just washed away to get +20 damage? Bogus. Make it different or there would be no point to upgrade weapons anymore

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              • I think special perks should stay. But give us more damage upgrades, that way don't feel completely robbed.

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              • Always, listening to feedback? I'm not sure if that's the best thing to say about this issue. Either the exotic reset is going to go away (devs actually do care about what the people they supposedly made the game for think) or it doesn't change (devs listen to the players but don't care what we think). I get that the devs want to force the players to spend more time in the game without doing the work to make new content, but this affects the people who are already playing the game the most. Annoying the people that are the most loyal to your game is not the way to prolong its life. Also, maybe next time you can let people know the plan to undo all the time and effort people put into leveling exotics before making the upgrade material for those exotics available. I'm sure that I am not the only person to waste shards upgrading exotics a day before finding out it was maxed for nothing.

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              • I have to say that we need more vault space to carry all this extra material. First there is weapon parts, armor parts, ascension energy, ascended shards, exotic shards, radiant energy, radiant shards, relic iron, spirit bloom, spinmetal, helium filaments. Thats a lot of different materials to keep up with. Im iffy about that one. But the one where does the reset just to add attack power. I mean why not just charge us the coins or motes to add the extra attack node, that requires another exotic shard? And I feel like I read that the upgrade costs an exotic shard? Idk deej, thats expensive.

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              • I wish everyone appreciated all that you guys to in making the game better instead of being selfish and wanting no challenge or fun in anything and it all given to us for free. Sorry so many negative people are on here.

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                • Edited by ClydeKuo: 12/4/2014 2:42:35 AM
                  Question: do we have to max an exotic weapon/ equipment before Xur can do an upgrade to it? If the answer is yes............ :S

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                • This new exotic upgrade system is ridiculous. For the love of God, please please please remove the part about wiping out exotic progression. Otherwise this will probably kill the game for me. Leveling exotics takes A LOT of time and now I feel like I'm getting a big fat middle finger.

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                • Edited by kilz0r: 12/4/2014 2:42:42 AM
                  So somebody at Bungie (or Activision) thinks that wasting peoples time is a "fun" game mechanic? Whatever you are smoking/drinking... STOP! As someone who has put over 700 hours into Destiny, I love the game, but can you imagine how much grinding and farming I've already done during those 700 hours in order to level up all of the gear I've obtained in that time? Do you honestly think that I'll want to repeat that process? What do you get if you take the "F" out of "WAY"? [spoiler]There is no effin way! =([/spoiler]

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                • DeeJ, are the new commendations transferable to other characters? Thanks.

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