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Edited by Multichem: 10/22/2014 1:52:34 AM
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This is the worst gaming community that I have ever been a part of, or witnessed, in a decade. What is wrong with you people? Bungie is a multimillion dollar company not an omnipresent all seeing entity that can fix everything at once. On top of that, they aren't SUPPOSED to fix all of YOUR problems because YOU don't know what's best for the entire situation. Let's put it this way: there is an episode of the Simpsons where homer gets hired to create a car because he is the most average man alive, and his brother thinks that would lead to the best car for the average man. What we find out is that if you take all the ideas of the community and mesh them together the end product is DISGUSTING and something no one wants. This game, Destiny, was created by bungie to be a certain end product, and play a certain way. It is their vision and the culmination of all their effort. You are the consumer, and play what they created, and are LUCKY enough to give feedback that is read by those that do so within the company. The Devs are NICE enough to listen and react to the feedback and the data and fix the issues that they see fit towards their own vision. If you don't like this game and how the devs have made it, you have every right to play something else. You would have a lot more fun playing something else than yelling on the forums to a company that is doing what they can about the REAL issues at hand. So tired of ungrateful and unrealistic expectations by the gaming community. So tired of it. Edit: a lot of you are saying "feedback is feedback" which I can't agree with. There's a lot of unnecessary comments that should have no place on a forum intended to give feedback and progression to a game. It's all about how you [i]give[/i] the feedback, and how you form your thoughts. Saying "this game -blam!-ing sucks you -blam!-ing suck suck a dick bungie I want this this this" is not feedback, it's insulting and destructive bashing of the developers.
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    Bungie had a 500 million dollar budget in this game and they have been working on it ever since 2007. Please don't defend them when they could have easily taken people's ideas from the beta and implemented then into the game. I have read so much post in the forums about some great ideas that bungie could have easily taken into consideration. But instead we get... Destiny, the game that disappointed so much people. With embarrassing story campaign, complete crap loot system and so much other things that bungie never took into consideration. How surprising...

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  • I appreciate your Simsons reference, Multichem, and totally agree with you. I thought of another one: When the new 'Galaxy Wars' movie came out, Comic Book Guy said 'Worst Galaxy Wars, ever! I shall only watch it 3 more times.... today". Seriously people, life is too short. If you hate the game, hate the company that made it and the way they plan to go forward, then why are you still here? Take it down to Game Stop and trade it in. Get something that better suits your style of play. Then you can go be a douche on some other games community forum and leave this one for the people who like playing it. If you decide to stay, then think long and hard before you post anything. If you're an honest person, you'll have to admit that it's pretty rare for any corporation to actually care what you think. But I've been impressed with the level of involvement Bungie has and how quickly software changes are rolling out. They are listening. But how much sewage do you think they're going to wade through trying to find useful feedback? I'm in a highly technical customer service industry, so I speak from experience here. Feedback that includes name calling doesn't get much, if any, play. It certainly doesn't motivate me to go above and beyond what I'm contractually obligated to do. And if that's true in my case when the price tag can be north of $600K, how much abuse do you think Bungie is willing to take from you for your 60 bucks? Not very damn much, I promise you. Welcome to the software business, where our motto is "If we wait until we're completely happy with it, we'll never ship anything". The PROFESSIONAL game developers are Bungie know full well there are flaws in the game. They know it shipped with bugs and missing features that they couldn't get resolved before they released it. They expect more issues that even they aren't aware of yet. Believe me, they want to know when problems are found and they want ideas to improve the game. But any letter that opens with "Dear Bungie Assholes" is not going to be taken seriously. Instead, how about you provide them with some data that helps them understand the issue? You may find they agree with you if you give them some feedback they actually find actionable. Hint: actionable feedback can have a pinch of bitching in. Use it like salt in your food, though.

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  • You know, you're so full of sh#t that I don't even know where to start, so i won't bother. People have the right to complain considering the finished product, so get off the forum, get back to work and fix the game. You're what's wrong with the gaming community. Your attitude towards people with genuine grievances and their need to vent. You might make employee of the month yet !!

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  • Wow what an insightful argument. I'll bet not knowing where to start is a big part of your life. Let me try and teach you something, and I'll try not to use too many big words this time. The company I work for develops professional grade software, but is in no way connected to Bungie or any other gaming manufacturer. Yes, there are companies that exist that have nothing to do with video games. And no, I won't make Bungie's employee of the month for defending what they've created or how they are handling updates. I don't have anyone's ear at that company. I spent $60 on the game just like you did, and they don't owe me any more than they owe you. You see Frozen, outside of your mom's basement there's a place us grown ups like to call 'The Real World', and it's nothing like a video game. Those of us who live here don't re-spawn. We can't go back to a save point when we make a big mistake, and we don't find golden chests filled with magic coins. In this place, we've learned that certain business realities exist. They vary by industry (sorry, that's a big word. It means the kind of stuff that you sell) and in the software industry, one of the realities is that you are limited by product architecture (sorry, another big word. It means how you designed it to work). It's not like when you make a mistake with your crayons. When you make software, you can't just scribble something out and start over with a fresh piece of paper. Any changes you make have to fit within the structure you created for it, which is very complex (that means really, really hard. Like math). A change that may seem simple from our point of view as the one playing the game might cause nightmares for the person trying to write the code for it. In the big, scary building where the developers at Bungie work, they have to decide which things are the most important to fix when they have a list of things to do and they're all important. It's a hard decision sometimes. Kind of like when your mom asks if you want your PBJ cut diagonal or straight across. You wish you could have both, but she said you only get one sandwich. Some of the things people are bitching about may not be possible, and some things can only happen if they give up something else. That's the point I was making- constructive feedback is helpful for Bungie and the community at large, name calling and pointless, child-like behavior isn't. Part of being a grown up is having a proper perspective on things (that means you should not make something more important than it actually is or have unrealistic expectations). Venting needs to contain information useful to developers. It's naive to think the kind of change many are asking for can happen quickly. 1 month after release, critical defects to the functionality available right now are the top priority, and their next DLC is second. That's another software business reality. I told you about some the other challenges already, so rather than go over that again I suggest you read it together with your mom so she can explain it all to you. If she doesn't get it either, have her drive you down to Game Stop and trade your copy in. If you can manage that without crying, maybe she'll stop for ice cream.

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  • LMFAO...........what's with the "mum's basement" sh#t ?? It's amazing how, when someone can't justify their words, they come out with the "your mum's basement sh#t" ...........still LMFAO........... I'd call you a retard, but that would be EXTREMELY unfair to people with a mental handicap. Listen carefully RabidWanker24/7, fanboy , sheep, or whatever your name is. So far, in two posts, you've said nothing, in fact, less than nothing........ i'm still LMFAO........Howz about we take a peek into your life then, hmmm.....let's see........I'm guessing : mid 20's, fresh out of "the basement", (but mummy still does your washing), you rent a trendy 2br. apartment overlooking a cafe or waterway with 3 other guys, one of which you suspect is ghey. (it's probably the one you woke up next to "hugging" this morning). You don't own a car yet, but when you do, it'll be a prius .You're a proud "hipster", although people who aren't "fashion savvy" commonly mistake you for a bum - (ahhh, NOW you know why people keep throwing coins at you !!). Your hobbies include collecting "I've been to" t-shirts, wearing skinny jeans, lo-fat lattes, anything owl related, self maintenance (beard included), and posting "DUMB SH#T" ON FORUMS...........(Howz my aim ?? Am I close ??....... Are they tears ??)....... F.Y.I. - I am no kid, I'm semi retired, I sell Bromeliads online from home, my home, that I paid for, through perseverance and years of hard work. (KID ?? I don't think so,....stupid ?, not likely,.....immature ?, absolutely !!) So..... you work in the software industry, WOW, *ROCK STAR STATUS* ......BIG FN DEAL !! Do you post stupid sh#t here because you need the attention or is it to impress the kiddies with your rockstar-like lifestyle !! After all is said and done - Destiny is still a shell of a game, after 5 years in development ?? and, sorry, how big a budget ?? ...........please.......... do yourself a favour, and don't say another word...... just nod if you understand........and here, here's a complimentary bucket of STFU for you to stew on.

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  • I mentioned my credentials so you'd understand that I know something about the software business. If we were talking about tropical flowers, I wouldn't assume I knew more about Bromeliads than you did just because you said something I didn't agree with. I think you may actually believe that Bungie created Destiny for our amusement, not to make money, and that being negative about the game on social media actually hurts or motivates them in some way while you're still playing it. So which of us is the sheep here? But hey, if anyone reading this thinks the flower salesman makes a better argument than the software engineer does about the software business, Vaya con Dios. Your assessment of me personally is not even close. Moved out of my parents home a month after my 18th birthday, made my own damn money, like my spotted owls fried in bacon grease, but I only eat those when we run out of steak. I drive a gas guzzling 4x4 when I'm not riding an obnoxiously loud motorcycle. Your description, however, is exactly how I pictured you except for the part where you talked about sharing a bed with another human being, which doesn't seem likely in your case. Seriously, you really come across as a basement troll or at least a guy with no significant other and several cats. And my god man, where did you learn to spell and punctuate your sentences? Prison? The fact that you found no valid point in either of my posts, whether you agree with them or not, only proves my suspicion that you don't have much capacity for reason. I don't know if its a birth defect or head trauma that resulted in brain damage, but it would have to be one of those. No one is that impaired without there being a clinical reason for it. Whatever the cause it doesn't matter; I don't want to be one of those guys who picks on people less fortunate. Please accept my apology; I had no idea you were handicapped. If you need to have the last word, I understand.

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  • Like I said RabidWanker24/7, not once, not twice, not even thrice - YOU SAY NOTHING !! You are not even challenging or interesting enough to warrant any kind of response.........but i would like to clarify a few things before i go. Firstly, Where exactly are my spelling errors ?? you intellectual effing dwarf. Secondly, I punctuate how the "f@ck" i want. and btw, your previous post's structure was an eyesore for someone who is obviously anal about that sort of thing. And lastly, can i just say " i see what you've done there " regarding the need to have " the last word " it's almost clever !!..........Is it possible ??, have I misjudged your intelligence ?? .........no, i guess not - BECAUSE YOU KEEP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF BY CONVERSING WITH SOMEONE WHO CLEARLY, IS NOT INTERESTED. So....... (cough...awkward....cough)

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  • Dude, it is you that is embarrassing yourself. You want to know who is really bringing down the gaming industry? People with reactionary opinions and people who resort to Jr. High level behavior when they have clearly been rekt. You fit the bill for both. Feel free to come back when you can put together a cogent thought that offers a better argument than "OMFG U SUK GTFO BBQ".

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  • Re-read you post. I think you'll notice a couple of mistakes, like..... i'm bringing down the gaming industry ?? Whaaa...... ?? ?? Great statement. well worth posting. Do yourself a favour & "STOP TAKING DRUGS" As for "reactionary opinions"......SERIOUSLY ??....... look in the mirror d#ckhead. You use words & abbreviations like "rekt" & "OMG U SUK GTFO BBQ" - and then have the balls to tell me i'm the one who needs to "put together a "cogent" thought that offers a better argument ??..... ROFL !! Much like the previous idiot, your post SAYS NOTHING. Try starting an argument with a 10 y.o, that way, IF you win, you'll feel much better about yourself........... Have a nice life.

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  • The best part here is that if I keep poking you, you will keep responding with the same childish drivel and rediculous sentence structure. So, yes, you and people like you are a stain on the gaming industry. You come in with strong opinions that have no infrastructure, then crank the immaturity to eleven when challenged. You use a lot of words but say very little. No business in the world is going to take your complaints seriously because of how you present them. If I were to start an argument with a 10-year-old, I am certain he would at least have better manners. You can't even manage that. If your posts here are any indication of how you think, I honestly don't know that I can expect better of you.

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  • Edited by FR0ZEN FLAMES: 10/28/2014 4:13:18 PM
    You still here ?? you've said NOTHING...... AGAIN !! stain on the industry ?? strong opinions ?? no infrastructure ?? drivel ?? WTF ?? Again, RE-READ YOUR POSTS - and this time look for something that makes any sense at all................... Clearly, you're an idiot. Here, let me simplify things for you : you > :,( (butthurt) me > \(^ -^)/ (LMFAO) ..........immature enough for you ?? Every time you post - I laugh. Yeah, you keep poking me ........and i'll keep bending you over. P.s, hOwZ MyE sENtenCe dEsTRUctuRe naOW ?? ..............retard. Yours sincerely, A 10-year-old.

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  • Edited by andrewbeastmode: 10/22/2014 7:43:34 PM
    Dude wasn't this game a five year project? Didn't bungie have an astronomical budget for this game? Are not bungie the creators of the excellent halo series? So tell me HOW THE F*** DID BUNGIE RELEASE SUCH A MEDIOCRE GAME?!?!? I do enjoy the game overall and play almost everyday but honestly alot of the negativity being spewed in the forums is yes childish but some of it is valid criticism and understandable hate.

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  • Amen, this community is toxic.

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  • I can Agree with this. Now a days there's more whiny bîtches than ever before, and thats a fact.

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  • Edited by DrSiniKul: 10/22/2014 5:14:02 PM
    There was a time... when this community was much more organized and courteous to one another. But that was long ago.... Until this community bands back together and finds it's voice..... I'll be the one who speaks for this thread. You must have no end of questions Multichem In this communities dying breathe we pleaded with Bungie to listen to our requests and needs and in return Deej created pointless News articles to calm the masses. To seek out those that would close their mouths and be sheep. Sheep..... to be mindless bottomless pits of money for Activision and Bungie. What happened to this community you ask? I could tell you why this community is the way it is. I could tell you what they struggle to understand. I could tell you how feeding the trolls in here is a bad idea. I could tell you that some of their feedback deserves to be listened to. I could tell you of a time when gaming meant buying just that one game and not multiple story DLC content. I could tell you of a time when gaming developers didn't cower at the feet of Corporate Producer Giants. I could tell you of a time when bad story telling only existed in lower profit gaming developers. But I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain what happened to this community. There are many tales told throughout this forum to frighten people from having a voice, to remain the sheep that they are. Lately those tales have stopped....... Now the Sheep are frightened anyway. The horrible patches/hotfixes/bad storytelling in DLC's are on their way back in December. This time... this community and this game will not survive the fire. What can you do? Nothing Bungie has there mind set... This game won't last 10 months.... let alone 10 years.

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  • I just.... Cant find another cutscene long or relevant enough to write a parody on the same level as this hahahaha, good job

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  • *community's (it's possessive, not plural) lol j/k tho - Well done!! Though I don't agree with your final sentiment, I applaud your efforts in its creation! :)

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  • I...just...can't give more than one like and it's killing me lol

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  • So umm, why don't you just not play and move on then?

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  • What is with you try-hards today defending Bungie. You and DopenesS should move in together and stream videos of you two defending Bungie on the game they created. You can call the stream 'FanBoyHouse'. Seems fitting.

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  • Why is it that because I like the game and disagree with you it is a negative thing. You should be a dictator and commit genocide precedent shows that's what those views are most effective at. Pretending destiny is some kind of social issue is lame in my opinion.

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  • You're an idiot and you can't take a joke. Learn to take a joke and quit being so serious about protecting your precious video game.

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  • haha you're stupid.

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  • Good one!

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  • Thanks man you too!

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