Hey guys so i want to share some thoughts. Ive gotten 3 exotic weapons bounties for, Bad Juju, Thorn, and Invectus. I was wicked pumped when i got Bad Juju only to be somewhat disappointed with its performance. I honestly thought that an exotic weapon would be one of the best in the game but to be completely honest i wouldn't even choose Bad Juju over any legendary primary for any scenario. The magazine is way too small even with its "String of Curses" Passive. In addition to the small mag (5 shots total before reload), the reload speed is pretty slow for how small the mag is. Most legendary weapons follow a constant balance where if the mag is small the reload speed is quick, or you can have a large mag with a proportionally slower reload speed, and then the decision for the player is completely based on playstyle. Whereas with all three of these Exotics, the decision for me has never been based on how i like to play destiny but which is actually EFFECTIVE. This is somewhat disappointing to me because there are some really awesome Exotics in the game that ARE better than their legendary counterparts (When fully upgraded) but for these three weapons in particular, it is much too difficult to use them in any scenario. Invective is VERY good for pvp, but my other legendary shotgun "Invisible Hand M7" is probably just as good if not better. Its fire rate is almost as fast, in addition to having a 5 shots instead of 4 in a mag. The reload speed is also MUCH faster than the DOG slow reload speed of Invectus. On the topic of Thorn, i dont think this one is the worst comparatively speaking, its only real disadvantage is the reload speed. But unfortunately because its reload speed is SO SLOW, it makes this weapons utility almost non-existent.
[u][b]Suggestions for re-balancing:
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[b]BAD JUJU (Pulse Rifle),[/b]
This weapon looks like it was intended to be an exotic designed to let the user "Get around" reloading the weapon and just shoot almost infinitely, which is really cool as an idea but a few things need to be modified for this to actually be useful.
>Increase magazine size from 15-21 rounds (7 shots)
>Replace the "Send it" perk with "Field Scout" - (increase from 7 - 10 or 12 shots)
>Change the String of curses passive to refill magazine after the 3 round burst is finished instead of at the specific bullet so you dont have a refilled clip with a wrong number of burst rounds (this seems like an accident by bungie)
>Decrease base stability of weapon in favor of increased base range and reload speed
>Replace the "Hip fire" perk (which is totally useless on a weapon that has such a small mag not to mention a PULSE RIFLE) with a more useful and fun one, possibly "Persistence" or "Spray and Play".
[b]THORN (Hand Cannon)[/b],
This pistol is a beast, not only does it look cool but it sounds cool too.
>INCREASE RELOAD SPEED, THATS PRETTY MUCH IT.
>Other options to changing the base reload speed are changing the perks so they reward the player for using the weapon properly, like for example the feeding frenzy perk, or the spray and play perk.
>Additionally if the reload speed were to go unchainged then the utility could be fixed by giving it an appropriately large magazine size, for how slow the reload is i would say 12 rounds would be acceptable.
[b]INVECTIVE (Shotgun),[/b]
This awesome weapon when fully upgraded regenerates ammo in addition it is FULLY AUTO.
>Same thing as Thorn to be honest, either up the reload speed or increase the magazine size. To be fair, a fully automatic shotgun would not be hand loaded using a pump action, it would have the same firing mechanism as an assault rifle and use a spring loaded mag. Sooo a reload increase would make more sense.
[b]SUMMARY!!![/b]
Ok guys and gals, let me know what you think. I remember bungie mentioning that they were looking into buffing BAD JUJU and Thorn but it doesnt seem to have happened yet. I really want to actually use these weapons instead of only using them to level them up while im on patrol missions.
[u]PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE SUGGESTIONS ARE FOR PVE GAMEPLAY ONLY[/u]. PVP is so much more difficult to balance for an infinite amount of reasons and alot of the fixes ive suggested would make these weapons completely OP in a PVP situation so they may have to be modified to do less damage when in the crucible.
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