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Edited by OohaPieceaCandy: 10/9/2014 4:06:40 AM
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(Edited) Absolute proof Iron Banner is complete bullsh*t!

I was making a new warlock and got through the 4th mission or so. I was level 4 with my friends who are all high level like my main. I decided to test Iron Banner because last night I really didn't see much of a difference playing with my lvl 30, it felt like regular crucible. So I joined up with my friends to play some Iron Banner. I was expecting to walk in and get one shotted with an ankle shot, instead I was baffled at what happened. Watch the video, and let me know what you think. Edit- Here is my second video as well, this was my third game and did even better than my first. http://youtu.be/h2rUdKnB_4M Check it out and let me know what you think! Also thanks Deej for replying at least, I was not expecting that. Although you did leave us with your usual vague wait till the update answer. Please don't just address it, please actually fix it! A big shout out to my fireteam, thanks for helping me make this video ClearVue, AssasiNinja187x, ojndeath1, DukeNukem786, and xxKunntryxx

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  • The halo multiplayer had ghosts, warthogs, banshees, brute bikes, those walkers, teleports, thing that made you whoosh through the air... What the hell is up with destiny multiplayer.. Let me call in an airstrike with my ship or something man! Wheres all the vehicles, dude wheres my car?

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    • I saw maybe 2 kills that were legit 1v1 and one was the guy was jumping in mid air not paying attention. All the other kills you had help this is a team game. You are not going to win a 2v1 unless you super or both players are incompetent jackass who cant shoot.

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    • It just goes to show you. all the whining about weapons being OP is complete bullshit. and pvp is actually balanced. -blam!- YES! take that whiners!

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      • "game is broken. no wonder they are expecting a 10 year game from it...its not going to be correct for 10 years" - my friend who left the game after getting hyped for it. With all these issues and now this one bungie just lost a fellow fan forever. RIP the dedicated gamer.

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        • I had an idea long before this happened..... The lvl of the weapon is just the requirement for you to use it, not so much the weapon itself The numerical attack is the effectiveness in terms if PvE enemy levels 240=24 Impact is the attack, relative to level Stats don't change per level, only their weighted relativity There for, in PvE, if you used a lvl 10 and 18 weapon that were the same on a Lvl 10 enemy, they might do equal damage, but on a lvl 18 enemy, the lvl 10 would do less. Same with your character, the damage you give and take is a relative ratio based on the level In PvP, they say level advantages disabled and iron banner dies, maybe they just mean impact, not relative levels, such as the starting autorifle has more impact than hardlight, defense seems non-existent, idk

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        • Very nice observation.

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        • You're hardly playing the best players. Almost every person you killed wasn't even looking at you. Just because defense matters doesn't mean your guns do nothing if you're a low level. Using an exotic weapon DEFINITELY makes a difference. Stop with these shit posts trying to find flaws that don't exist with this game

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          • Edited by SP Dragoon: 10/9/2014 5:47:37 AM
            Who remembers a year ago when we were all on the forums looking forward to a brand new exciting adventure? Grabbing every bit of info we could at the time... Everything did a complete 180. I almost had more fun speculating and anticipating what I thought this game would be with you guys :/

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            • People sayin it would be to unfair for people under lvl 20 but it should be anyone under lvl 20 shouldn't be in iron banner might as well bitch about you can't do the raid at lvl 12

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            • Xbox gives refunds for digital guardian edition just contact xbox support via chat on the xbox site. I got one for all the zoo based network errors. Just spreading the word for those wanting off this sinking ship.

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            • Dont worry everyone a forum moderator will address the situation.

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            • The difference is like 1-2 bullets more needed to kill a higher level....hahahaha bungie hyped shit again. ITS what they do, hype their events and then they turn out to be Total wack. Queen event: same old bounties with different logo's Iron banner: same old crucible with minimal if Any at all difference..... ITS getting pretty sad.

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              • Gear does matter ! [spoiler]bring a shotty and win[/spoiler]

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              • Ugh....and I was afraid to use my low lvl warlock. Wtf...how many times do we prove that we do our research and sometimes we know what we talk about...and they still keep doing it...

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              • Can I call you james wood please!!!!

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              • Damage isn't affected by the iron banner stats are which mean armor agility recovery not the defense you get by equipping armour the stats in the subclass screen. I've noticed titans survive my tripmine grenade when warlocks and hunters die and I've been owned by warlocks who almost die only to duck behind cover and jump right back out with full health.

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                • Edited by ProHOTSHOT: 10/9/2014 1:34:26 PM
                  I think the banner is not exactly like crucible. There does seem a slight bit of difference. I play crucible and can do fine. Manage a 2.0+ k/d from time to time while sacrificing for objective but when I play banner there are times I just get crapped on by exotics which is understandable since they are exotics. But I don't think all the weapons and armor abilities are activated in crucible but are activated on banner. Maybe it's just coincidence but I've never had anyone with suros for example heal while shooting me in crucible but it's the bane of my existence in banner. The gun legitimately does more damage at the second half of the mag. I mean I agree that it isn't the low level crushing machine it should be because I'm a level 23 and don't get squashed by 30s but I think their still is a slight difference and it's the weapons. I've never experience it in crucible. I could be completely wrong though. But the problems I've had in banner i don't have in crucible.

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                  • There is a difference in iron banner, it's kinda small but there's a difference. You can notice the difference when you're shooting the other players, I watched the video and you were dealing 19 on body shots to most people that were high levels and like around 26 on headshots. My suros does about 31 on body shots and like 46 on head shots if I fight someone a little lower than me (I'm level 28). There is a difference, I think they boosted players stats if you are lower than level 20 to level 20, however I don't have proof of this last claim.

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                  • It seems alot of you think the damage boost/damage reduction higher level enemies get in pve is the same as personal level advantage.. it isn't. Your armor at high level maybe good, but it isn't entirely bulletproof and whether you're level 1 or 30 you have the same amount of actual health. Your "proof" really only shows that you're a skilled player with a good team of "more obvious threats" then your low level character is. Try running a matchmade low level game without your high level friends. See if you're cries are to the same tune.

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                    • I don't get it either man. I don't understand how iron banner works at all. I'm a level 26 and my level 14 shingen-e can take down guys just as fast, if not faster than my Hard Light with all of the ability modifiers. Even with near perfect headshots from Hard Light. And these two guns have nearly identical characteristic stats so it's a good comparison. However I'm doing worse than i do in regular crucible so there must be some difference. Maybe just the armor difference is all that really matters? It seems like difference in attack is almost null. I wish they would've explained in detail exactly how the system works instead of just "bring your best gear". It's definitely not as clear cut as that and once again, bungie is seeing complaints because they did a poor job explaining and advertising how something works. It should be noted I'm still enjoying the iron banner as it's proved to be a good challenge. I just wish I understood the mechanics of the challenge so I could adjust accordingly.

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                    • This is a huge disappointment i was really looking forward to the iron banner thinking it would be more then just a reskin of current bounties with cheesy rewards why not go all out for these so called events? rare and otherwise unobtainable items with Iron Banner only maps and some new fun game types... let me stop im asking for to much

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                    • The PvP is such a horrific lag fest in this game that it's pretty much irrelevant if they have the level and defense advantages enabled or not.

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                      • Edited by doublesit: 10/9/2014 8:46:53 AM
                        well, after watching this video i would resume it in a few words: you seem to be a pretty solid player, you played tactally pretty good keeping mostly a defensive position, your enemies (don't know what level they were) on the other hand seemed to be a bit mediocre - which is also shown by the result of the game and then your team seems to have been pretty solid so overall i won't call this a proof for IB being bullsh#t but proof that also lower players can participate if they are solid and have a good team behind them ....

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                        • Iron banner makes me completely lose hope for ANY event bungie has planned for this game, EVERY SINGLE ONE has been disappointing since launch, what is the point of having two -blam!-ing crucibles. This quite obviously is not the same bungie that made halo, this simply is not.

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                          • and you can add the completely random reward , i often see people at the bottom getting the best loot while top of the board get nothing as if the IB was trying to even the game by rewarding the bad player better gear.. I even saw a player with 0 kill and 0 assist (certainly hidden) getting a legendary engram.

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                          • guys hold on a second just think of the explanation were going to get im thinking something like oh we couldnt make you op because we wanted to give other players a chance i think that would just contradict the whole point of iron banner! i just want to hear what they have to say to cover that ass!! this game started ok and it just keeps getting more bad i really liked the game like many other people when we first started playing it but like the first week after having the cryptarch give you legendary engrams that just turned blue all the time then bungie making a joke about it that just let the players know it was shit and a waste of time basically if they would of made more of a rewarding system they wouldnt have had to make all those hot fixes and patches! and that random drop shit they got OMG! i was watching a stream one day and they were talking about some AFK method on rumble so i looked more into it and it was players going into a pvp rumble match and not even playing they would tie rubber bands to the controller sticks so the avatar would move and not get kicked from the lobby to get rewarded with stuff and it was working so here i am at home just thinking to myself WTF this has to be a joke! but no not on destiny the good players dont receive crap but the bad players get stuff and sometimes the good stuff and by not even playing the -blam!-ing game! but hey good gear cant even save your ass in iron banner!!! WHAT WENT WRONG BUNGIE?

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