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Edited by DeeJ:
10/8/2014 5:57:28 PM
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How was your first night in the Iron Banner?
Seeking constructive feedback.
Tell me about your experience. Please stay on topic.
Were you detecting an advantage attributed to your more powerful gear and weapons? Did the experience feel different than standard Crucible combat?
Talk to me, Guardians.
UPDATE: I know people quit games when they know they won't win. I'm more curious about your perceptions for how the power-level advantages work. Help me help you. Stay on target!
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#feedback
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Filled with bow cheaters and lagging connections.
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I'm almost rank 5 and guess how many Iron Banner legendaries I've had drop? If you're answer is zero then you're right on the money!!!! The only one I've seen drop at all was to the guardian at the bottom of the table with only three kills . Now after all the talk about how rewards will drop in game so we don't have to buy them seems a little bit less than accurate. I've left posts on the help forum asking if the drops are bugged and I've no response. Not good enough!! This so far has been the worst iron banner by far!!!!
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4 RepliesI was killed by an ice breaker and felwinters lie. :/ both one shot kills. Shadowshot glitch need I say more?
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It was ok to say the least. Drops are to rare I've continued playing with friends when I hit rank 5 and I had nothing but a mark drop for me 1 time it was disappointing. The weapons or rewards were sub par. The shadow shot wasn't a huge deal as I wrecked them anyway. I use a titan so all I can say is it does not need a nerf because I pop my super and boom headshot from a sniper rifle and I was dead. Most people ran from me when I do use it. Evading hammers were easy for some who had the smarts to you know jump around and try not to get hit. Only a few times did I kill more than three guardians with 1 super. Banner seems more like an empty grind more than fun this time around. And getting thrown into back to back losing games was just frustrating.why can't there be like an iron banner exotic or something to get you know dangle a carrot out there to attain. And please do not have iron banner and trials of osiris on the same week spread that stuff out. Thanks
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1 ReplyThere's no reason to do Iron Banner anymore. And I did it anyway. I fell for your trick, got two toons to level five, and now I have one question: Where's the loot?
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Edited by St0ckbr0ck3r_: 10/18/2015 4:37:27 PMThere is no loot. Any rewards unless your lucky to obtain a 300+ drop per match, are useless!!! Why? Because destiny's loot system is designed to be obsolete, so one can grind for more crap that won't matter in the later years too. My answer? Thanks for wasted time deej! Year one was great until bungie destroys my entire years work progress (year one gear). Not wasting my time twice.
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Well I was using plenty of iron sights. I was too busy playing battlefield.
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There's no reason to do Iron Banner anymore. And I did it anyway. I fell for your trick, got two toons to level five, and now I have one question: Where's the loot?
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The complete pvp experience has changed for the worse. I have done a fair amount of crucible since 2.0, and even more since tkk has come out. Overall, the game isn't as fun anymore. Reputation earned from playing has dropped. Rewards have dropped. The rewards that do come are with terrible rolls and always lower light level than what we are currently wearing. The power curve that was talked about so much turned out to be garbage. I was well over 10 light fighting a lot of other guardians and could not see a noticeable change compared to regular crucible. I worked hard doing the raids to get higher light. That turned out to be a complete waste of time. Thanks for that. Despite your feeble attempts to balance weapons, shotguns and snipers remain the only viable special weapons. I have a personal bias against snipers that directly related to the overall iron banner experience. The aim assist on some of these weapons has gotten out of hand. If you want to sit there and nerf the shit out of shotguns, then why not snipers? To call flicking your aiming joystick and time your trigger for when it "hovers across" skill, then why can't that happen with every weapon? That's what this game has turned into. Open your eyes. I would like to flick my reticule over someone with my scout rifle and one shot them without even really aiming directly on their head, but hey that's not gonna happen. Matchmaking in general is broken. If you join as a group you will most likely face individuals. You will not find another equal group. This causes several problems. People start quitting, and people start crying for nerfs because they are having a shitty pvp experience. Why not match people with similar K/D, similar group numbers, similar win loss numbers? With a straight face, try playing iron banner solo and tell me if you had a fun time. You can't. For crying out loud, BRING SOMETHING OTHER THAN CONTROL INTO ROTATION. Do I really need to explain why?
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6 Replieshate it for 3 reasons 1 i dont want a curve , i want a straight line, 310 light to 1 X 100% damage to 0%, the more aggressive the better, you want to make light matter ? make a 310 be immune by a 270 or lower 2 raid loot light is rng, that means that no matter how many times one raids has little to do with what his light level would be, i have completed the raid 16 times i have yet to see a 310 item drop for me, i had to use 3 of coins to farm 310 exotics and infuse them i am stuck at 308 light because i cant do that fot ghost class armor or boots, so when ever i see a 309 or 310 in iron banner i get angry with GOOD reason 3 rewards are 280=worse than garbage
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1 ReplyEdited by Kone19ps: 10/18/2015 1:57:11 PMHaven't used it yet so I can't call nerf but the iron banner pulse rifle seems to have a lower ttk than messenger. Rewards are garbage as well. Knew you guys would drop the ball on that
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Power differences should be increased. Getting killed by 170 praedyths and 170 tomorrow answers.
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4 RepliesMy only gripe is that at level 295 I do 198 precision damage with the chaperone to a level 305 average iron banner player... to get killed by an inferior range shotgun because I'm thinking I just got that guy. This is probably the only place where that light level makes a dramatic difference. Otherwise yeah I don't notice the 24 as opposed to 25 precision damage on the apple of discord but man, so many deaths because my chaperone isn't putting fools down with a head shot. Come on.
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Edited by MightyJonE: 10/18/2015 4:00:21 PMBumping this thread to make it last 10 years! Only another 9 to go!!!
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4 RepliesEdited by Kweh: 10/18/2015 3:36:02 PMThis is from a year ago...
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IB is not worth the time, PvP is broken in overall
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IB is really fun the first 3 min, but at 9 minutes remaining when heavy drop, the titan bell rings and the games over just like rocky in the ring.... =\
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5 RepliesI'm not a big crucible fan, but I did play iron banner in the past. My limited play this time saw not a lot of difference in light lvl. At 302 I could just as easily be killed by a 285...or kill the 285 just as quick as a 300. Could be wrong but it doesn't seem to be that big if a difference. I was excited about ib this time because I was assuming gear would be 300+ light, but once I saw the guns and armor I decided to play until I could get the lvl 1 emblem...I like the way it looks. Anyway, I got to lvl 1 and a half and quit. Won't be playing iron banner again unless the rewards are better. Not going to grind lvls for possible rng better gear drops either. Just giving you my feedback. Thank you for asking.
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Was great, ya know, had some fun with the kids, killed a few baddies. Got wrecked on by invincible titans, you know the usual. Ask me about my second though.
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So bad this time around, it has left me feeling like never playing again. This has been the worst Iron Banner to date, maybe my last.
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Get better servers/ fix connections. I won't be touching crucible once bo3 drops.
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Edited by LosGatoTejas: 10/18/2015 1:39:51 PMDeej, Well, I grinded to rep 5 in three days and got my pulse rifle that I wanted. Yet, I felt that shotguns where not as common as in the crucible hence no year one weapons. They still have long range, but that's ok. What isn't is that with AR's, scouts, and sometimes pulse rifles can't kill a shotgun rusher all the time before he closes the gaps and one shots you. Peoples logic is that a shotgun Should one shot you. I agree. But the other weapons should kill as well. And they are not reliable. A scout rifle should not take 5-6 body shots into a sprinting hunter, and the hunter still kills you. Kinda insane. But the latency. oMFG. Latency needs to be addressed. Overall though the best banner I have been in. A large selection of maps helps.
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1 ReplyPower-level Advantage Breakdown Any guardian with 290 light and up, can be a strong competitor. Does a 305 out gun the 290? I'd say that depends on the Guardian wielding the weapon. I found the distinction in damage output was not noticeable. I play on my hunter(302-305 light) and I never [i]felt[/i] stronger than anyone else. I also cannot recall going in and battling someone lower than 285 light. My biggest question for IB is does a weapon's light help with damage output or is it solely the average light across the gear? Because I saw no difference in a 305 weapon vs a 290 weapon. All in all, I did not feel any strong scale of power. I felt this IB was much more balanced (for better or worse).
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4 Replies1. Tbh the light advantages are almost non existent, make the curve narrower, 5 light levels having a Delta of 1, then we'll see some level advantages.. I used the achlyophage and thus had a light level of 285 and i literally didn't notice any difference. 2. Sunbrakers.. I think they're completely fair, I mean you should totally be able to wipe the entire enemy team twice with one super with 7 tracking nova bombs with a high splash damage and with prox. Over the course of 20 secs and the highest mobility and highest armor possible in the game (survives a high impact sniper headshot and a GG shot)while insta regening on a kill... Completely underpowered... 3. Despite you're quote that the end of game drop will be the main source of items in IB, buying from the vendor is the main source of items cause the drop rates are just miserable, I believe it's around 2% and definitely not higher. 4. Unlike last year, you can't drop crucible legendaries in IB, which cuts the incentive to keep playing after you buy the last item. 5. The glass needle was a great idea, and deserves a thank you 6. I don't understand how couldn't you figure out a weapon balance after one whole year of supposedly sandbox test, I really don't get it Removing shot package didn't change the fact that all other shotguns without it still have an insane range Fusion rifles are still garbage Hand cannons were needed to the ground Ars are still garbage; the range nerfs on HCs and Ars are just laughable, they both have the the range of the old felwinters, go figure.. Pulse rifles are the new HCs, Thorn and TLW were replaced with red death and juju respectively, plus the stagger on pulse rifles make them almost impossible to snipe, the same goes with scout rifles. Plus I haven't noticed any pulse range dropoff even at sniper lines of sights! At the end please don't wait another 6 months for another weapon balancing update, otherwise the game will get as boring as it was while Thorn was king, just that now it's replaced by red death + being not snipable Oh BTW, all the new maps are just bad, its not competitive in any way shape or form
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3 RepliesLike y'all said you can notice a slight difference when you have a 10,20,30, ex light lvl gap. Wish IB gear was higher light lvl thou.. And the IB drops should be more than what is being sold.
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Sorry Deej, but I've decided not to play it (although previous events I didn't miss), and the cause was not a glitch with hunters but the fact that I can't at least get the items from Lord Saladin for all three characters, I would prefer to spend my legendary on items from vendors which are not inferior in quality to the items of the iron banner. Make the light level of the subjects at least 300 and maybe next time I will play the iron banner. But now, participation in this event for me makes no sense. I'm not a fan of cosmetics.
