If you play both then you are the third group of people. It's pve, pvp, and the pvp/pve groups. Pve only players don't want our shit getting nerfed because it is good againsted other players. You guys knew this would happen when they told you they would let people bring loot from pve into pvp, and you still bought the game. People can't bitch about it now, knowing full well what this would be when we came to end game loot.