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Speaker Emblems and hidden buffs

edit: Got to thinking... I think Bungie adding descriptions shown here ( http://imgur.com/aWWP7pd ) also in-game was because of this... We changed the game... kinda :) No Emblem that The Speaker sells for motes has any buff associated with drops from it. I was told (word of mouth) this by a Bungie Dev as well as Destinynews.net received the same off the record statement. http://destinynews.net/secret-bonuses-emblems/ Thanks to all those who believed! I wish there was more to them, but it is nothing more than cosmetic. Those wanting proof confirmation, i will try to get a written statement of some kind but word of mouth is the best response that destinynews and myself received... so, with that said.... any room for conspiracy!!!??? Below is what we thought and my original post that i was updating at the time we thought the speaker emblems had a hidden buff related to drops. This is now remnants of a full community test with Reddit, GameFAQ and the Bungie Forum communities that we prayed and hoped to be true... but came up empty with shattered hopes and dashed dreams in a crushed glass of despair. The emblems the speaker sells *do not* contain hidden buffs and these were the approximations of what we thought they would do after a bunch of testing and positive results. however, this was a wild goose chase... so if you buy this it's just to look cool...smh ---past this is unchanged--- Glimmer edited out, this has been undeniably proven to be Grimoire and crit spot bonuses, so when you have a consumable for extra Glimmer... make sure to shoot crit spots. Thanks to all the people who tried and tested this out. Also, Materials in game are going to be tricky to test, knowing that the grimoire buffs your collection potential after looting so many materials. this could also heavily be grimoire related and will be removed as a potential buff if proven beyond a shadow of a doubt like glimmer was. Thank you for your rigorous testing! Blessing of IV Higher drop chance from enemies on Mars, Specifically Cabal Changed to reflect the most reported community finding Blessing of the Ancients Higher drop chance from majors or ultras (Fallen have been reported to drop more loot with this equipped) Blessing of the Gifted Higher drop rate/cryptarch conversion chance I have gotten many confirmations as well as a few No Go's on this, Could be RNGesus more than the emblem. Lots of players have reported increased heavy and special ammo drops from this as well. Additionally, PVP rolls have also been reported to have given extra rolls up to 4 on a single match, similar effect to Skeptic Blessing of the Joined Higher drop chance when in a group I have had about 7 people report this to be true, haven't had a bad one yet, It is theorized by few that this also increase your gear chance when grouped for end game rolls on strikes, Blessing of the Knight Higher drop chance from Hive I have had no reports on this emblem having any effect, could be that no one has tried, please let me know if you have Blessing of the Sentinel Higher drop chance from Vex I have had positive and negative confirmations about this, it's about even so my theorized effect maybe wrong here. Blessing of the Skeptic Higher loot chance on end game rolls I have had more positive reports with the Skeptic being used at the Cryptarch than used in end game rolls. I have had a few reports of end game rolls have extra rolls when equipped, up to 4 rolls. May have the same effect as The Gifted? Blessing of the Speaker Higher drop chance the higher light level you are No confirmation on this yet, more testing needed Blessing of the Unmade Chance for more drops from chests I have had way more reports of more greens/blues being looted from chests with this so for now i am changing the theorized buff to reflect community findings. (changed from more materials on dismantling) Blessing of the Watcher Higher chance of loot from end game rolls and chests I am also changing this one's theorized effect to reflect community findings. (changed from chance of more drops when using your super) Blessing of the Zealot Higher drop chance from The Fallen I have had confirmations that this does exactly this, however, i also have had reports that it increases drops on majors and ultras for all enemy races. More testing needed Blessing of Worlds Chance of more materials looted in game I have had positive and negative reports about this as well. The positive reports say that materials from chests seem to have increased by at least 1 material per chest on average. I have also had confirmations that this is really effected by your Grimoire which totally could be true since it is an in game grimoire bonus. This needs more testing on accounts with little to no Grimoire score just to have a baseline test. Edit 1: Right now most of this is Theory but i have tested Blessing of the Gifted myself and my drop rates definitely increased, not to mention 2 out of 10 legendary engrams have turned exotic for me. This post is more of a recruitment. I need help proving these. but my friends and i have definitely tested Gifted and IV with positive results. Please post if you can confirm that you experience gains in loot/glimmer/rep/exp with any of these equipped. Thanks for your assistance in advance! Edit 2: So, after a few comments I'd figure I need to explain my thought process behind this a bit more. Motes of Light: a rare currency that is used to purchase legendary and exotic items from select vendors, so why would emblems specifically called Blessings cost Motes vs. the rest of the vendors requiring rep lvl and glimmer? Well a blessing suggests that it could have a buff (however hidden from us) attached to it and the additional expense of motes implies that these emblems are worth more, but why would they be worth more if they didn't have some effect? Maybe it is coincidence, and we are digging to far into it maybe it is legit, but we can't be sure if we don't try in the 1st place right!? Do the other legendary emblems have effects or is it limited to just the speaker sold ones? I honestly have no clue, It is possible, but on the other side, it is a game based on a ton of randomness, it could just be coincidental. Finally, it's Bungie and they love putting hidden (almost scavenger hunts) in games in places that we would never expect. So remember, BUYER BEWARE. Note 1: i have also had positive reports of users using jade rabbit or other in game legendary emblems and class cosmetics and they are reporting higher drop rates as well. It could be possible that all the emblems have the same effect, it just triggers differently at odd times... or it could be RNGesus... I'm really starting to think that there are effects on emblems/class items, we just don't really know what they influence or how they are triggered. Additional Communities: (thanks for crediting me on your re-posts) Natetendo83 reddit link: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hjo4w/interesting_theory_from_the_bungie_forums_on/?sort=new jubjub_28 Gamefaq link: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/704532-destiny/70177239
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  • I have the double eagle warlock bond or whatever from the speaker n it's dropped two vexs 3 times to people in my team instead of 1

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    • Wow what an old post

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    • When you say higher drop chance from majors and ultras, do you mean the consumables? Or is it engrams?

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    • I did the get the mythoclast first time equipping a speaker emblem at Atheon....

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      • A Video guide showing and confirming the emblem's hidden buffs and benefits.

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        • Bungie can deny it all they want but they DO work. Blessing of the skeptic has given both my gf and I an exotic or legendary engram every week. Blessing of the speaker gave me exotic helmet for 3rd week in a row

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        • I tried and tried and im very sure that blessing of the speaker provides extra exotic drops... I got allmost all the exotic weapons as a drop in nightfalls wearing this... When i got them all i'd get a lot of strange coins...

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        • I posted down below on accident... my bad... food for thought... I've been reading about this off and on, but i noticed the other day playing in the tower, I was kicking the ball off the edge... people like that... don't they... Either way, one of the "overhead announcements" came on going talking about the speaker saying remember something. I don't remember well enough to quote, but it had to do with the rewards being greater if you take the risk... or something along those lines... has anyone else heard that announcement? Think its related to his seemingly useless looking stuff not being so useless?

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        • bump

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        • I am going to get the Gifted and the Joined. Never knew much about these. Awesome!

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        • Edited by K MILLZ 71: 12/27/2014 4:44:59 PM
          I have some data that may be helpful if you're keeping track: While wearing Blessing of the IV I killed 90 Cabal; I got 4 greens and 1 blue.

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        • Regarding blessing of the zealot... I just did my first hard raid earlier today, I realise you get double drops if you haven't done the normal one, but I read another thread on these hidden buffs and thought to myself that the zealot one must be something to do with the raid given a number of armour items from the raid have zealot in the names. So anyway I bought it and had it equipped the whole raid and got the following :- Praedyths revenge Corrective Measure Plan C Raid Arms Raid Chest Raid Helmet Raid Ship Vex mythoclast Shards plus energies (didn't keep track) Funny thing is when I got back to the Tower I had the sniper and plan c waiting for me, didn't even recall it dropping. No idea if this is normal but 2 exotics, 3 armour, 2 raid weapons seemed pretty good to me from a single run, especially after doing around 5 normal raids and only getting 2 pieces of armour and about 5 shotguns & a corrective measure the haul I got seemed pretty out of the ordinary for just a single raid! Take from it what you want. But I'm keeping it equipped for the next time.

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          • Bump. I'm using blessing of the joined

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          • Merely spectating here, as I have no insider knoweldge nor am I a Bungie employee, but b what if the game rewards you for buying items from the Speaker? It's not the emblems, but rather the purchase that it causing people to gain even more stuff. What do you think?

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            • I know that they have a slight buff. When i use "Blessing of the gifted" I see a significant increase in heavy and special weapon ammo drops, as well as a slight, very slight increase in my end of PVP match drops

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            • Bump

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            • Eva Levante "Class" you may not think it matters how you look but it does." I think you guys are on to something.

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            • I hadn't heard of this theory until googling for emblems tonight just wanting to see what they looked like before dishing out motes on another. I've used Blessing of the Unmade for about 3 weeks now. I've had 11 rare ship plans turn up in chests (3 duplicates) and 4 exotic bounties from the bounty vendor (1 duplicate). Maybe pure coincidence, but I swear I've been saying "wtf is going on" as my friends haven't landed any. Sounds a fitting explanation as ship plans suggest they're "unmade" and exotic bounties I'm running through gathering stuff to make the weapon. Just my 2 cents, gonna test some others and be mindful now... If they're intended to be hidden buffs, I imagine bungie wants them hidden and wouldn't reveal it the first month of the game... Who knows though

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              • Some comments have covered this. The grimoire rank buffs certainly work. However , I have been switching between Gifted and Iron banner in both PvE and PvP and have noticed a definite gain in with Gifted in Engram drops. Also use monarchy and dead orbit emblems, no change from rare emblems. I believe Bungie is trying to keep this and a couple other potential stack buffs under wraps

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              • I'm going to try the Blessing of The Watcher over the next while, I'll try to come back and say whether it worked or didn't

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              • The blessing of the zealot definitely works cause I got a legendary engram after putting it on

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              • I do not know if it works. I have tried Blessing of the Gifted. And although I have not seen a significant change in the engram drops I did see a big change in the ammo drops I received. I was getting more Heavy ammo than I was actually using but when I take it off there was an obvious reduction in the Ammo I received. I also tried Blessing of the Joined and have not seen any significant difference. It may or may not be RNGesus but I have seen some significant changes.

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              • I've been running gifted forever and I seem to have crazy luck with drops. And I've had loads of legendary engrams.

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                • Edited by DeviantNightmare: 11/22/2014 4:10:29 PM
                  Well I got The Blessing of the Gifted one night then played 2 strikes with no results. Then I get on the next day to be rewarded with my very first exotic that I've won as a reward after a strike in the tiger strike playlist. I got Universal Remote after doing the Nexus strike. Then a few strikes later I see a purple orb pop out of a shank on the Arkon priest strike. I went and decoded the engram and it ended up being an exotic machine gun (the Thunderlord) So two exotics in one day really says something. Especially since the only other exotics I have I bought from Xur. Not to mention that I've never seen anyone get an exotic as a reward in the tiger strike playlist. So in my conclusions, Blessing of the Gifted definitely makes a difference. Thanks for this article. It really helped :)

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                  • I bought Gifted the other day and had a legendary engram drop off a foe 5 minutes into my first mission after equipping it, plus seem to be getting more drops overall and better results with cryptarch.

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                  • It made sense there may be buffs seeing they have a high cost and are legendary with specific names that lent themselves to believe there would be something. But it's weird they do nothing.

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