[b]Sleep walks in to the world of DRM[/b] So, everyone here remembers the X1 launch debacle and one of the main issues was the check-in every 24hrs (basically DRM). As such, if you can [i]only[/i] play a game when connected to both the internet and company x servers; you are in effect verifying (DRM) that you are eligible to play as you have officially purchased the license to play the game. This makes the whole X1 debacle mute. This is a pro for software developers/publishing partners as they are reducing the chance of the game being pirated. This is a con for consumers. If your internet goes out, you can't play the story mode for the game because it needs company x servers (if that is how the story mode works i.e. destiny). If you live in a remote rural area were internet is mega expensive to get, or it's not available, then you can't play the game. Better internet infrastructure is required with ISP backup (if your connection goes down they can switch you over to another t1 line), and reasonable pricing all round. Then, this becomes a better option.

Guess what...Playstation Germany just had a competition for early access. Winners will be able to play the day before release. Don't actually know how that will work, since servers would have to be up, but I guess they'll manage.

[quote]Also the fact that the servers start when the game comes out means that everyone will start out on an even playing field. There won't be that guy who has the best gear and a high rank. Players start at the same time.[/quote] While I agree with most that you said, what I quoted is completely false. The game get released on 9/9 so that means that people that live closer to the international date line will get the game close to 1 day before others, so if the servers open at the international date line as well that means they will have had 1 day to play before everyone else. Also if you bought the digital pre-order, depending on where you live you will have to wait for your provider to release the digital licence. The fact of having to wait for the licence for the digital pre-order is cool but people playing close to 1 day before the rest of the world even gets there copy of the game is just wrong.

Okay so let ME tell YOU something about this always online BS. First off, let's just go to the main issue before personal issues. The fact that you must be online which connects to a server means that the MOMENT Bungies servers stop supporting Destiny the game will be entirely useless...sure, they plan for 10 years, but let me say i've been playing games 20+ years old and i still have the physical copies. Now, imagine my anger if i try to play a game that is around 20 years old, and i can't even start the game up for singleplayer, which by the way is mainly what i play games for. Bottom line, anything relying on servers (aka online connectivity) for EVERYTHING in a game is just plain stupid. There should be at least an option to play offline, it isn't even that difficult to do. Okay okay, now enough of the issues about this, let me tell you all a little story that has to do with Steam vs Origin. Now many will probably say that Origin is shit and steam is best friend. Let me say that I agree...to a point. Sadly the difference between the two is massive in terms of offline capability. You see many probably don't know this because in modern day hardly anyone is offline for too long. Me however I had an issue were due to complications i couldn't connect to the internet on my desktop for over 4 months. In the end after i had everything set up i also bought an amazing wifi USB so i could connect, but before this i couldn't. Now everyone knows steam has offline capabilities...but like Starcraft you must login at least once per 30 days for it to be enabled. Now i forget about starcraft but for steam you must do it on the computer itself...if you login elsewhere it won't matter. So wouldn't you know my surprise when after 30 days of no internet i was locked out of steam from playing games. Origin on the other hand, luckily i had a bunch of games installed from there recent sale at the time and for 4 months i was playing on origin. This isn't even a small number of games either. The idea of online only has the assumption you WILL have access to internet within 24 hours. Bullshit, if i buy a game i want to play it whenever i want and wherever. Hell if i am in Australia in the middle of no where and have a generator i want to pump open my portable gaming case, plug it into my said generator and play my games without the "SORRY YOU MUST CONNECT TO THE INTERNET" tl;dr? Always-Online is one of the shittiest ideas anyone has ever come up with. Good day.

[quote]Also the fact that the servers start when the game comes out means that everyone will start out on an even playing field. There won't be that guy who has the best gear and a high rank. Players start at the same time.[/quote] FALSE The Digital editions are timelocked to Midnight PST (Seattle), so even if the servers are up I still have to wait 3 hours in EST (NY) Also anyone that gets the game early will be able to play it before the Digital editions are unlocked A few hours might not be a big deal to you, but if a bunch of early birds clear Vault of Glass and win Bungie's recognition simply because of the headstart, I promise you will see a lot of rage from the community

Thats it, thats your entire argument? "Always online prevents spoilers" Yeah spoilers really ruin a game that I cant play if: - ISP goes down - Game servers go down - Live/PSN servers go down - I cant buy Live/PS+ that month Most idiotic argument for always on ever.

also, what does "go dark" mean?

There will be people plowing through the campaign at blistering speeds. I'll be surprised if the entire campaign isn't fully revealed on day one.

You're right man, before Reach launched the spoiling trolls emerged from their fapcaves and did serious damage... It will be the same here after release.