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Edited by Mandingo: 8/22/2014 3:40:36 PM
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5:45 A player shouldn't be really force to do something in destiny But if I don't wanna deal with your bullshit non matchmaking raid to earn those cool gear ... I am force to do so. Raid with no matchmaking is such a dumb idea , and than those noobs say : I don't wanna deal with trolls! . Oh I am sorry, I didn't know that Bungie remove the INVITE A FRIEND option. Same goes with PvP ... If players don't care about PvP they will be force to play PvP to get those legendary / exotic items E: oh and STOP IT with your engrams RNG non sense.
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  • not even going to read the replies, jsut going to say go choke on a bag of dicks. no really, get going. cant make friends/join a clan cuase your super lonewolf boy.. you'll jsut have to get over it. here's a tissue buttercup, dry those tears and man up!

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  • Oh shut the -blam!- up.

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  • "Raid with no matchmaking is such a dumb idea , and than those noobs say : I don't wanna deal with trolls! . Oh I am sorry, I didn't know that Bungie remove the INVITE A FRIEND option." its not a bad idea at all and here are my reasons why 1: match making raiding (if raiding is as hard as he says) leads to leavers on wipes eg. lets take the strike...3 players get qued up to do this strike and get stuck on the spider.....first 1 guy who has finnished it 5 thousand times leaves...so it puts you back in the que to find another player to take his place. yet again the group fails and now both of the other players leave...now you are stuck joining and leaving ques with randoms that just may never even finish the fight = waist of time 2: branching off of point 1 say you do finnish boss 1 and move on to boss 2 and wipe again, the other players leave and you are put back in que 2 new players join but they notice "Oh wait he is already at boss 2 so i missed half the dungeon F this im out" they leave and you are back to square 1 now you can say penolize them for leaving but thats just not going to stop them..lets have a look at World of warcraft they introduced a raiding system called the lfr (or looking for raid) you join the group and no one says anything, complete silence ...NOTHING..... not even anyone explaining tactics o boss fights. then the raid wipes cause no one knows what they are doing due to lack of communication, now everyone is raging and pointing fingers calling each other retards and stupid noobs cause the fight is suposted to be "easy" as blizzard has learned and im sure bungie has as well , you can not through together groups of randoms and expect everyone to work together.....its impossible. 3rd and final: math making content makes you lower difficulty of said content due to my point i stated earlier ("you can not through together groups of randoms and expect everyone to work together.....its impossible.") there fore you need to make it mind numbingly easy almost as easy as the strikes...(content designed for 3 players but cauld be soloed by a freshly lvl toon) when you do this it shortens the life span of the game cause you have seen all the content you have fought said boss already and know whats going to happen there is no push to move foreword in the game and progress wich will drastically shorten the life time of the game. if Bungie see's this comment...i hope to god they take this to heart DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE BLIZZARD DID WITH WOW....nothing pushs players to explore your world more then giving them the drive to do so... pvp que button? sure why not strike que button? go for it Raid que button? NO!!!!!! PLZ NO!!!

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  • Nevermind that he said people couldn't commit to 12 minute matches let alone hours of commitment.

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  • I used to think the same thing but I just found a group with similar goals and time frames as myself. I have a very very busy schedule and so do many of my actual friends so I was pretty pissed when I saw no mm but there are many ways to solve it. There are so many pages to find for friends to play with or groups or clans to join it really isn't an issue. The game is more fun when your all working together anyway. I see the points you made bc honestly those were the exact same points I made but there's no reason to complain

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  • I don't like not having matchmaking either. It's BS what they say about it "raids are things you can't do with random people" I don't have 6 friends that play destiny on my console of choice ! But hey we don't know yet so we just have to wait. But what I don't understand is that they say "if you don't have that many friends (something like that) just go to the tower and ask people to commit! Or use the destiny app." But that's basically the same as using matchmaking just with more work! Because your still doing it with random people via the tower or the app.

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  • [quote]I don't like not having matchmaking either. It's BS what they say about it "raids are things you can't do with random people" I don't have 6 friends that play destiny on my console of choice ! But hey we don't know yet so we just have to wait. But what I don't understand is that they say "if you don't have that many friends (something like that) just go to the tower and ask people to commit! Or use the destiny app." But that's basically the same as using matchmaking just with more work! Because your still doing it with random people via the tower or the app.[/quote] Bungie is the mind behind one of the biggest franchises to ever hit shelves. They put forth tons of hours to make sure the final product is what it should be. If Bungie says you NEED friends and communication to complete the raid I think you should listen and stop complaining about it. Make new friends, it's what I'm doing since most of mine in person don't have a next gen.

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  • Well considering I'm 13 and my parents don't let me talk to people over XBL I guess I'm screwed

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  • Edited by Shenanigenizer: 8/22/2014 4:27:59 PM
    100% agree with this post man. I've always been a lone wolf and when I heard bout the raid sh!t I was pissed. Forces me to join a clan :(

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  • No it doesn't. Look around. There are threads all over this app to find friends to raid with or even later on do other modes like pvp. Also if you aren't serious there are tons of clans or groups that are created for the not super hardcore clan is life bs. Just look around everything is right there for you.

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  • Yes I see that. You don't rele understand raiding tho? You need a group if SOLID gamers and ppl you can mesh with. Best way of finding them is to join a clan. Thanks for the heads up tho on how to find ppl, cause I rele had NO IDEA...

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  • Well since you were complaining about it It seemed as you couldn't figure out the simple solution. Since you have it all figures out explain to me again what the issue is?

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  • I know what you mean, but don't you have any friends who will play Destiny? I bet you do! So join them.

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  • Those pvp legendary items were made for pvp just as there will be legendary items in pve. The reason why Bungie is not forcing toy to do raids or other things is because got have alternatives to do other things. You don't have to do raids. You want to because you want to experience what it has to offer and therfore have to play by the rules. You know what what's funny is Mass Effect 3 had it so that if you wanted your galactic readiness to be at 100% you would have to play the multiplayer mode also but people didn't complain. Bf4 had it so that in order to use a certain drone perk in multiplayer you had to complete something in the story mode. Many people don't play bf4 for sorry mode but people didn't complain. Point is games have been doing this and gamers either adapt or move on. [spoiler]Just deal with it guy....[/spoiler]

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  • [quote]You know what what's funny is Mass Effect 3 had it so that if you wanted your galactic readiness to be at 100% you would have to play the multiplayer mode also but people didn't complain[/quote] Actually a shit ton of people complained. Originally in order to get the actual endings you needed something like 75% readiness, but in order to get above 55% you had to do multiplayer, which meant offline players were getting the shaft in terms of singleplayer completion. Bioware ended up changing the necessary GR for a complete ending to around 55%.

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  • Edited by TSK Sefier: 8/23/2014 2:34:05 PM
    I never noticed because I had over 66% and I never played the multiplayer before beating the game and still got the complete ending.

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  • It would be like searching for a good zombies group in black ops.. 99% of the time everyone sucks and you want to do it with friends anyway.. But instead of it being zombies, it's much more difficult and challenging. So no.. -blam!- matchmaking in raids

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  • I could agree with that except in zombies matchmaking works you need the extra cannon fodder so me and my friend can just wreck

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  • This is the player that will log into the game, then complain they do not have all the items. Because they should have all the items since bungie said they would not be forced to do something.

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  • Yeah that's like half the population of destiny

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  • I lol'd at this. If you played any WoW after WoTLK then you will understand fully why there is no MM for raids. I love the idea of needing to get 5 more people to finish it. Teamwork makes the dream work.

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  • i think the main reason with no MM is because they say it requires teamwork and it would suck being the only person with a mic and people going everywhere i dont think you would beat many raids like that

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    You are exactly the reason why not having MM is a good thing. Your attitude sucks.

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  • A million times this.

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