Matchmaking raids is a terrible idea.
Join a clan, exchange ragas and run with them.
You must have been playing some cheesy mmo, any hard mode content in a pug is a terrible idea. Hard mode end game Pug groups only work with a full group of mature above average players... Destiny won't.
Destiny is going to be filled with casual CoD and BF players. I don't want to pug that raid when top halo clans couldn't clear it in 16 hours of trying...
Everyone's best bet is to join a clan early, play with people, get to know them, if it's a good fit, then you should be good.
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a clan is just a group of randoms that you know a bit better. clans have drama,will bungie be there to ringmaster the fights that always happen in clans during raids?how good is their clan feature exacally?can I que clanmates for multiple raids from the ui?i doubt it. do clanmates not have a life so they can devote 16 hours for "one" raid?i would have a better shot running multiple raids that fail with pugs.than running one or two with people complaining theyre not in the "good "group or omg they stuk me with that guy hes crap! removing this feature entirely is asinine.or pigheaded or just plain arrogant.play it this way or not at all is quite offputting.
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What if your clan lousy enough and can't even beat the raid In first place?? I saw lot game, join clan cause They have no choice, force to do this and that . RAID here and there, pk here! Pk there! I not person who listen to command ! I am my own and boss myself !! That why I choose hunter and only Hunter! I saw people in clan before , killing some mob end up all die, party with people of wilderness like me , kill that mob easy and smooth without KO! It called tactic and strategy! And different player have different style in playing game!
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Then you need a different clan, one that is good with teamwork and cooperation among its members , my clan has no one leader, everyone of founding members has equal say to make best decisions for whole group.
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I was invited by numerous of clan to join, but I can't . Cause my daughter been playing too on same account sometimes. I just like do thing alone , finish it and move to next
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Edited by nyko777: 8/1/2014 6:52:05 PMhey buddy i agree with you in everything you said,if you need a friend here i am..nyko773(ps4)
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Edited by AuriSakura: 8/1/2014 11:41:09 PMI noted your ps id. Thank you
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I understand, then I guess I wouldn't count on the raids unless a group forms in tower somehow. Without an in game chat system idk..
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As I said that is a very stupid move from Bungie
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Edited by MarkusAuralius: 7/31/2014 3:29:05 PMNot that it matters, but the mmo's have been FFXI (don't judge, but if you want hard mode...), Aion, SWTOR, ESO..a few more mixed in. Like I said, all you need is communication for a raid. I don't need to know everything about someone to run a raid. I just need to know we can communicate. And I am not against clans at all. I would rather join one. But I also don't want to join some rando clan. This goes into a point of there really is nothing social about this game as I have to scour through 7 pages of posts on the forum to try to find one. I'm not wasting my time on that. "Everyone's best bet is to join a clan early, play with people, get to know them, if it's a good fit, then you should be good." - and if it's not than I'm in the same boat. I don't play CoD or BF anymore. CoD lost my years ago and BF is just bad. Matchmaking for raids is not a "bad" idea, it just isn't how [i]you[/i] want to run them. Some people may just need one or two people (or like me the whole squad), and they can use the matchmaking, you don't have to.
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I played the beta on Xbox one for 25 hours , in that time I had invited 13 people into my fire team played with them , spoke to them and added them to my friends list so I have no understanding as to what u are complaining about this game not being social, I think your the individual who's not being social
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I have no idea how long I played but pretty much the whole PS4 time. I had my Fireteam settings open to the public. That is about as openly social as one can get in the game. The problem is, I barely ran into anyone (besides the crucible). And if I did, I had no way to communicate with them. I don't friend everyone I walk by - but even then it wouldn't have added 13 people. Besides the Crucible, I don't think I saw 13 other people. And like I said - I'd have no way to communicate with them - that is unless I friended everyone I came across, created a PSN party and invited them and hope they have a mic too. That doesn't make a very social game, in my opinion.
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there is nothing wrong with a choice. nothing.
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Not every one wants to join a clan some just want to play the game
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If they are that casual then who cares about the raid? The game is trying to encourage social interaction, meeting random people in the wild and playing with them for a good period of time. The game is encouraging clans, if you don't like it, don't try raids or go back to CoD.
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this is not 100% accurate
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The " world domination" just went bye-bye. I see a trend here on the forums. More players want a system of some sort. A party finder would work. If they don't, a matchmaking system is needed. At the moment ( beta ) this game is not social. What will happen. We, the casual, small clan, friends not all on line or busy. Will get to end game raids and leave. Bungie wants us to stay, brag about how great Destiny is. I ( we ) have a way to go till then. This debate may all be in vain. I hope for the best.
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Why is everyone's response go back to Cod? I don't play CoD and I have a fire team all ready with two others I don't want to make friends in destiny I want to play with the ones I have stop acting like having. Clan makes you that cool cause it doesn't
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I'm just saying if you are against clans or meeting new people don't complain you can't do the raid.
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I know you are talking to nowhereman, but I am not against clans or meeting new people (as I said, I'd rather be in a clan), but I didnt meet anyone in the beta. I barely saw anyone in my instance of the tower and rarely ran into anyone in the world...and if I did I had no way to communicate. Even in pvp, players moved and rotated out of the "room" (for lack of a better word) to do anything. And there was no communication there either. I keep hearing how this is supposed to be social but my experience was the opposite. I even set my fireteam to public to let anyone join. The only communication where control point capture dance parties. This is supposed to be a social game but they are actively removing the social aspect by not allowing matchmaking. Sorry for the rant, bored waiting for an appointment. .