We're not looking at the value of the armour you're wearing here. Plus Warlocks don't have skills that mitigate damage or make them a foundation for the team to revolve around like titans do.
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The sunsinger subclass wants to have a talk with you ;) Radiant Skin and Flame Shield mitigate damage. Radiant Skin decreases incoming damage while Radiance is active, and Flame Shield reduces incoming damage for a short period after Scorch (melee skill) is used. There is also Song of Flame, which decreases all cool downs for nearby allies while Radiance is active, although it cannot be used in tandem with Radiant Skin. That would encourage teammates to revolve around a sunsinger warlock. A defender titan is obviously going to be a superior tank, but it's not out of the question for a sunsinger warlock to be a competent tank in their own right.
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[quote]We're not looking at the value of the armour you're wearing here. Plus Warlocks don't have skills that mitigate damage or make them a foundation for the team to revolve around like titans do.[/quote] Also before I forget. There are 2 things that deside how much armor you have in destiny Your armor rating ( from your gear) And your armor stat ( from your subclass) When it comes to gear, I was able to get armor that was litterLy only one point below the titans So all I would have to do is take the divine order perk in my sub class to get my armor as high as a titan
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That was early game gear. I'm sure mid to late game gear has a much larger armour gap between classes. Also, my Titan had an almost 100% armour rating. I doubt any Warlocks had that.
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[quote]That was early game gear. I'm sure mid to late game gear has a much larger armour gap between classes. Also, my Titan had an almost 100% armour rating. I doubt any Warlocks had that.[/quote] I PLAYED THE WARLOCK IN THR BETA Did you even read my post With the arcane spirt tree and the divine order tree the warlock has 80%-90% of the bar filled not only I'm armor but also I'm recovery ( the other stat you need to tank well) Also do you understand how the armor rating of gear vs damage works because I don't think you do. All armor rating does is dictate how much damage a weapon can do it the player wearing it. Go read the wiki and come back All armor ratings where the same in the beta for a reason
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Edited by Juggernaut JSA: 7/29/2014 11:45:32 AMNah, you're wrong. Warlocks don't have such a high armour rating or skill towards the end. I understand the damage system perfectly. Otherwise Titans would be obsolete. You should stop being so patronizing and rude. Did mother never teach you how to discuss something in a polite manner? Probably not.... You shouldn't get so angry on a games forum. It's bad for your health.
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Says the guy being passively aggressive.
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You must live in in Farmville if you call that passively aggressive.
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Whatever you say bud.
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[quote]Nah, you're wrong. Warlocks don't have such a high armour rating or skill towards the end. I understand the damage system perfectly. Otherwise Titans would be obsolete. You should stop being so patronizing and rude. Did mother never teach you how to discuss something in a polite manner? Probably not.... You shouldn't get so angry on a games forum. It's bad for your health.[/quote] Dude I saw the armor bar It's that high That fact that you think only one tank can be in a game like this means you know nothing about this game I surely hope you play on xbone
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Edited by Juggernaut JSA: 7/29/2014 1:48:48 PMHave you seen the endgame Titan armour yet? Have you even seen the Titan abilities? Titans are designed to be tanks. Not saying a Warlock can't be one but a Titan will always be a better tank than a warlock. Have you seen the Defender subclass? The abilities there are insanely tanky. I doubt any Warlock subclass has those abilities solely based on protection and recovery. Besides, what we're saying is speculation and doesn't mean anything. So much nerfing and boosting is going on atm that we have no idea how it's going to pan out in the real game.
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[quote]Have you seen the endgame Titan armour yet? Have you even seen the Titan abilities? Titans are designed to be tanks. Not saying a Warlock can't be one but a Titan will always be a better tank than a warlock. Besides, what we're saying is speculation and doesn't mean anything. So much nerfing and boosting is going on atm that we have no idea how it's going to pan out in the real game.[/quote] What are you talking about nerfing and boosting ? If bungie nerfed everything and buffed everything people cried about then the game would be completely unbalanced. And yes I have seen late game titan armor and late game warlock armor. They share the same armor rating. Because they are the same lvl armor And yes I've seen the late game titan skills. It's not made to tank Striker is made to melee damage. Defender is made to save other people And the game comes out in a month Nothing major in the game will change because of the short time before the game is live That fact that you refuse to adopt your wrong and don't offer any suppose to you fact just proves how unneeded you are Please go back to playing cod you are not wanted here
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Says the guy who can't discuss something with someone without being patronizing. It's not your fault though, you mother shouldn't have stamped on your head when you were a child. You're one of those people who can't see any other side of an argument. "That fact that you refuse to adopt your wrong" proves that you think you're always right in everything.You need to grow up and learn to have a discussion, kiddo. Now, go back to begging mummy for some breast milk.
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You also have to take into consideration the possibility that the bars we are seeing for armor, recovery, and agility may be in respects to their classes. Meaning that 100% armor for a Warlock may not necessarily be equal to the 100% armor a Titan has.
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[quote]You also have to take into consideration the possibility that the bars we are seeing for armor, recovery, and agility may be in respects to their classes. Meaning that 100% armor for a Warlock may not necessarily be equal to the 100% armor a Titan has.[/quote] The values are the same. That the hole reason why iron banner works currently If once class could get always have higher armor then another. They would be overpowered in PvP Bungie is smarted then that do they made it so they could have the same max stats if speced right
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Good point.
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[quote]Good point.[/quote] Also for the record "titan"has never played anything but a titan is the destiny beta All some hasn't even looked at the real skill trees of every class in game. He is just blindly saying titans are better because that's all he knows
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I have seen the skill trees of the Warlock and Hunter.
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[quote]I have seen the skill trees of the Warlock and Hunter.[/quote] In game ? Because currently that's the only way to see how the attribute affect recovery armor and agility I've seen every tree I game so I've had trh same to scroll over the attributes to see how they worked together
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[quote]We're not looking at the value of the armour you're wearing here. Plus Warlocks don't have skills that mitigate damage or make them a foundation for the team to revolve around like titans do.[/quote] How is having an ability that literally heals a large portion of the damages you take on a very short cd not damage mitigation ??? Please think before you post
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Edited by Nodnarb: 7/29/2014 2:33:59 PMit is active mitigation, which is generally outshined by passive mitigation. you get a heal to replace the hp where the titan never lost the hp due to superior shields.
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[quote]it is active mitigation, which is generally outshined by passive mitigation. you get a heal to replace the hp where the titan never lost the hp due to superior shields.[/quote] For the last time the warlock and get as high of armor as the titan This is a fact people keep ignoring
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Calm your tits dude. Even if the Warlock and Titan have the same armor, the Titan has abilities that reduce all damage you take on TOP of the armor he has. That's all he was saying.
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i said nothing about armor ffs. chill it lol. defender gets a shield that in the late game constantly regens. shield does not = armor...