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Edited by sergeantawesome: 7/7/2014 1:29:38 PM
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Let me put this issue to bed: Destiny is not an MMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU First, if you are tired of this argument, then don't read or leave a bullshit comment. There is a summary paragraph near the bottom for those who want to skip to the point right away. Let me finish this argument. Destiny is NOT an MMO. Sure, it has a lot in common with MMOs, but that does not make it one. The biggest difference is the Stigma that MMOs carry. I could leave it at the two videos I provided, or these new articles below: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/news200605wowbaby http://www.blastr.com/2013-6-13/mom-whose-kid-died-while-she-played-world-warcraft-goes-jail http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/01/04/obsessed-everquest-fan-found-guilty-of-manslaughter http://www.rpgownage.com/2011/03/697/ http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/aug/29/world-of-warcraft-video-game-addict Sure, you can deny that those have any bearing on my argument, but allow me to explain (and this is going to be somewhat long:) MMOs have a stigma, like above. What is the stigma? Hopelessly addicted gamers who cannot manage their lives because these games have taken over. And there is some truth to these stigmas: these games demand so much of your attention. MMOs are not for casual gamers, they are for hardcore competitive gamers. They are for dedicated gamers willing to give up more of their time that they are willing to let other areas slip. Guilds are a good example of this. A lot of them are groups of over-dedicated gamers who require / demand other guild members time and effort. You must put in the hours otherwise you are kicked out. Now, why would anyone want to be in these? For loot items, drops, whatever the hell they are called. Some guild take applications and require members to put in so much time a week otherwise they are kicked out. Do you have a family? Hobbies? Better put them on hold because you need to be at that raid. You are obligated to other players. No one can tell me that they do just as fine without being members of a guild. You also have the fun-sucking addicted player types (who this person is making fun of:) http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post?id=65788375&path=1 MMOs are not for casual gamers. Here is why Destiny is not an MMO, Destiny is designed for casual gamers. People who want to pick the controller up for an hour and play by themselves can do so without sacrificing items and friends. You can join a strike with 2 other random players, and leave them once you are done. No obligations to anyone. Sign in, play, drop out. Simple. I don't have to join a group of 40 players and spend at least one night a week "raiding" with them. My character can be whatever I want it to be, and I can adapt it to situations without being forced into the "healer" or "damage control" type for the entire game. I can play the game by myself for most of it if I feel like it. My friends can't make it? Fine, I'll still be able to play and do almost everything else. To summerize: Destiny is very casual friendly, with no requirements or obligations. That is why its not an MMO. Regardless whether or not some things I said are a fact, or part of that stigma, its still part of that stigma regardless. And some of those who consider this an MMO have the mindset of the type of people I would rather not come across in the game: The hardcore competitive gamer. This is why they have the Crucible. I also have more choices in how I want to play, I'm not stuck healing, or tanking, or anything else, I can do all of that if I want to because the game allows you to swap skills out and weapons. I can heal, but if I go down, someone else can take over, or I can snipe, and switch to a cover fire role. More interchangeable. More adaptable. EDIT: I lightly hit on it, but forgot the other part of my argument. This game is so much more than just an MMO. Anyone telling their friends, say its "an MMO" is incorrect. It does so many other things. You don't call a multi-tool a knife when you got pliers, a screwdriver, a scissors, saw, etc. just like you can't say it's an FPS, or an RPG. It's a combination of all these things that it's not just one thing. And after a few good responses, I also would like that I have a new thought: MMO I do not believe is even a genre. I think it's more of what a game has or does than is. WoW is an action RPG that has the ability to have a massive amount of other players online, but that doesn't describe the gameplay. RPG is descriptive, FPS is descriptive, having massive amounts of players online is something that it does, not what it is.

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  • Ok everyone, long story short, bungie already stated when they announced the game that it is an "open world shooter, not an MMO"

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  • I'm sensing a lot of anger in this post.

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    • For the one thousandth time... It's an MMORPGFPSLMAOLOLROFLBBQ [spoiler]And if you don't agree tell Bungie themselves because they know what I'm talking about![/spoiler]

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    • You misspelled sergeantdumbass.

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      • I can agree with you on some points and not so much on others. Destiny at its core is not a traditional MMO. But all true MMO's are PC only until ESO releases. So consoles have never had a MMORPG. I don't agree with MMO's not being for casual gamers. I think this view might come from most charging monthly fees along with the full game price. Destiny will needs hardcore gamers as well as casual players too. Hardcore gamers will push the limits of endgame content making the devs create more unique and challenging( sometimes nerverwrecking) experiences. This will extend the life of Destiny and make every achievement feel like it means something. Casual players will help keeping the game fun and enjoyable, also balanced. They will make sure that progression works properly, so leveling up is an adventure not a 2 day grind farming random mobs. They will populate the city so we get that sense of not being alone in a torn world. I personally am a hardcore gamer. I believe that Destiny will be a great game MMO or not for anybody. Just go in knowing that this is a genre in itself at the moment, let Destiny be Destiny.

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        • You managed to be ignorant and arrogant all at once. Truly an impressive feat, well done.

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          • MMORPFPS

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          • This post is so construed with misinformation I actually felt insulted reading it.

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            • Come on guys we all know destiny is boarder lands 3

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              • OMFG, WHO THE HELL CARES?!

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              • I don't know why anyone thinks destiny is an mmo when the MAXIMUM number of players you can communicate with is 5, and maps will all have less players than a standard match of battlefield or a game of halo. The "persistent" world is really just a series of scripted events that occur at set locations where players are match made with each other.

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                • Edited by Grifshot: 7/7/2014 2:04:41 AM
                  Lemme put this in simple terms. Destiny=MMO without the epic scale of viable players in game. [spoiler]Didnt read OP, just felt like posting this due to title, [i]dont be offended people![/i][/spoiler]

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                  • Wrong. It's not an MMO because you don't see everyone all the time, because it's not one big server with everyone sharing it simultaneously. When people say MMO they really mean MMORPG, I would say that Destiny is an RPG, that is indeed multi-player, but not an MMO because you would probably only ever see 6 or so other people at once (excluding the tower).

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                    • Edited by Ralfufigus: 7/7/2014 1:46:07 AM
                      I'd say this isn't an MMO because you're not intended to run into a bunch of players at once, so it's not that "massively multiplayer." The game is also extremely story driven, more so than your typical MMO. It's just not an MMO. But it is very similar. It's an [i]M[/i]MO: [i]Moderately[/i] Multiplayer Online game.[spoiler];][/spoiler]

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                      • The definition of an MMO is one server hosting a large number of players simultaneoulsy online since all destiny has confirmed is that multiplayer is more than 8 then it is at current current time neither an MMO or not an MMO

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                      • This makes sense, I was always jealous of the guys in tricked iut armor that kill level 100+ monsters. It took ages to get to level 40, then I gave up becuase It's way ro tough to level up.

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                      • The dedication of a games players has no bearing on the genre of a game.

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                        • I can in turn tell you that yes this in a unconventional MMO. Just because it doesn't carry some of the stigmas doesn't mean it's not a MMO.

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                        • I have something else I want to add. Maybe just maybe at some point someone should go through the genres and update the definitions. But who is in charge of that?

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                          • Everyone shutup in order to find out if its an mmo you have to ask the creator, the one who designed it

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                            • Destiny = mmo

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                            • Edited by xXMr Anderson8Xx: 7/6/2014 11:15:29 PM
                              But definition it is Massive Multiplayer And online Tell me im wrong about any one of those three

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                              • Destiny is an mmo

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                              • In the traditional sense, you're right, but by definition, it is a massive multiplayer online game. /thread

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                                • simply put what does it matter what others call it or think of it. I guess people are getting bored so they have to make posts just inflame people. Knowing full well that this kind of topic is going to bring a response from others. These kinds of things don't matter. I don't play games based on whether they are MMO or whatever. If the gameplay is fun and engaging then I will play it, till I get bored or something better comes out.

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                                  • Destiny could be classified as a turkey sandwich, and I'd still play it.

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