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Good, although they should be able to not provide it even without a religious purpose. I shouldn't have to pay for my workers to have safe sex. And before someone pulls a straw and says something along the lines of "birth control is a part of a good healthcare plan". Sex isn't a necessity for anyone, so it's not needed.
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  • [quote]Sex isn't a necessity for anyone, so it's not needed.[/quote] Once you get past 19, this will be a very ironic statement.

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  • Wow. I don't think I've ever seen anyone evade points as good as you.

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  • No it won't. Because sex isn't a necessity. You can go years without sex and be ok. You may WANT sex, but that doesn't make it a necessity.

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  • So what, you want guys just to jack off every few days or so? How do people reproduce? I'm just going to ask you that. Tell me how the reproduction cycle for humans starts and ends and then tell me that sex isn't required at all in the process.

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  • What does that have to do with recreational sex?

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  • He has yet to answer that, he likes to bring up random stuff.

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  • So now your gonna bring in unprotected sex in an argument about having protected sex? Lol

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  • Edited by Section Ratio General: 6/30/2014 4:58:26 PM
    I love how you immediately call foul when someone strawmans you, then you do a complete 180 and do a strawman instead, while also evading the question. What's next, red herring fallacy, slippery slope? Ad hominem? Knowing your posting style, you're going to devolve into a logical fallacy in your next post, guaranteed. Here, let me reiterate this, since you managed to miss the second paragraph: [quote]Tell me how the reproduction cycle for humans starts and ends and then tell me that sex isn't required at all in the process.[/quote] Edit: Here is the response to your post anyways: [quote]Because sex isn't a necessity.[/quote] Yes it is. [quote][b]You can go years without sex and be ok.[/b][/quote] Self-pleasure is still considered sex, just with yourself. Unless you want to have blue balls, that's fine by me. I won't be affected. Masturbation is still considered a sexual activity. [quote]You may WANT sex, but that doesn't make it a necessity.[/quote]Well, it's not like humanity needs to reproduce through sex. Humanity [i]obviously[/i] reproduces by budding.

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  • Dude, this is all he does. He commits all kinds of fallacies during a debate then inadvertently flips them back onto you without ever really knowing what he's talking about in an attempt to appear smart. It'd be funny were it not so pathetic.

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  • I've known this at this point, and then I also realized that this is his alt account since his original account is still on my mute list. I have muted him so I won't end up losing brain cells reading his threads or responses. That, and this thread is a good spot for all the people I need to mute. I can understand differing opinions, but pairing it up with needless and petty insults is an automatic mute from me.

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  • Really, where did I call foul? I just pointed out that now your arguing for unsafe sex, in a thread about safe sex. Your post has nothing to do with the decision of the government above.

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  • Edited by Section Ratio General: 6/30/2014 5:21:31 PM
    [quote]Really, where did I call foul?[/quote]I can see this becoming a "Begging the Question" fallacy very quickly after this post. [quote]Straw-man To deny life saving treatment is not and won't be allowed Icy.[/quote] Your response to Icy's post, about an hour ago. [quote]So because they do it it's not a straw man? Good logic. It's a complete straw man. No one is denying anyone life saving medical necessities. Contraceptives are not a necessity nor is it life saving, because sex is not a necessity.[/quote] Response to Icy's post, also around an hour ago. [quote]I just pointed out that now your arguing for unsafe sex, in a thread about safe sex. Your post has nothing to do with the decision of the government above.[/quote]No, I was arguing about your claim that sex is not a necessity, which is wrong, by the way. Again, you're avoiding my question: How does the human reproduction cycle work? Tell me that sex is NOT required for a woman to get pregnant through the traditional way. Along with other health benefits, sex is necessary for humanity to live on. [url=http://www.forbes.com/2003/10/08/cz_af_1008health.html]Forbes, a conservative leaning website.[/url] [url=http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sex-and-health]WebMD, a more neutral source.[/url] Edit: Also, I saw you spouting off about this 99% of women statistic. I would love to see where you get this from. Show me the source, otherwise, I call bullshit on your statistic.

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  • Ok, since your gonna go pull random tid bits from other comments, instead of focusing on our selves. I'll answer your question. IVFs, no sex needed for the human population to reproduce. Going to continue to pull random questions into this conversation? How about since your so concerned about the human population continuing we don't offer contraceptives, so everyone can reproduce. You're problem is now solved. The human population can continue. Please get off that useless question you keep bringing up, and stay on topic that the OP posted.

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  • Edited by Section Ratio General: 6/30/2014 5:39:04 PM
    [quote] I'll answer your question. IVFs, no sex needed for the human population to reproduce.[/quote] Wow LOL. This is the first time I have ever heard anyone say that sex is not necessary for traditional human reproduction, lol. I laughed out loud in real life, and now my sides are in orbit. [quote]Going to continue to pull random questions into this conversation?[/quote] Nah, I just had to see if you knew anything about sex and sexual reproduction. You don't. [quote]How about since your so concerned about the human population continuing we don't offer contraceptives, so everyone can reproduce. [/quote] Lol. I can see an increase in single mothers and unemployment if this were the case. Still, it's Hobby Lobby, since you wanted me to go back on topic to the OP's post. I don't even go into the one in this town anymore after a very negative experience. It's just a religious version of Walmart, which explains why the store isn't doing well at all, since they built it right next to the Walmart in this town, lol. Edit: By the way, since you're [i]so[/i] confident about your knowledge in sex, answer my second question: Where did you pull that 99% of women statistic? Show me a source, or I call bullshit on your claim, again.

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  • Who said anything about traditional human reproduction? Because you didn't in your other post. I guess you just forgot about IVFs then, and then tried to argue about having unsafe sex. In a thread about safe sex. Go pull straws elsewhere please.

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  • Edited by Section Ratio General: 6/30/2014 5:47:56 PM
    [quote]No, I was arguing about your claim that sex is not a necessity, which is wrong, by the way. Again, you're avoiding my question: How does the human reproduction cycle work? Tell me that sex is NOT required for a woman to get pregnant through the traditional way. [/quote] You know, I'm just going to leave it at this, since you're overly stubborn about your view, "It's either my view is right or their's is wrong!" is what you're going through right now. Here, let me quote my post, AGAIN. [quote]No, I was arguing about your claim that sex is not a necessity, which is wrong, by the way. Again, you're avoiding my question: How does the human reproduction cycle work? [b][u][i]Tell me that sex is NOT required for a woman to get pregnant through the traditional way. [/b][/u][/i][/quote] [quote]Go pull straws elsewhere please.[/quote] Again, claiming a strawman fallacy. In every single one of your posts directed to me, there has been at least one logical fallacy. If you don't want people to return logical fallacies back, then you shouldn't start putting them out in the first place. And again, this is the 5th post where you've evaded the question, so let me quote, bold, underline, italicize, and capitalize the question: [quote][b][u][i]WHERE DID YOU PULL THE 99% OF WOMEN STATISTIC OUT FROM?[/i][/u][/b][/quote]Seriously, it's an 11 word question. Show me the source.

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  • Birth Control pills help with other issues, not just pregnancy prevention. Shocking, I know. http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/med-uses-ocp.html

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  • And for 99% of women that's not needed, so don't act like every single woman needs that. If they need it for a specific reason, then we can do it. But for me to provide birth control to every woman and man for no reason, other than "MUH safe sex". Is retarded.

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  • Edited by BannedBoy: 6/30/2014 3:52:11 PM
    Birth control isn't even that expensive through insurance, and the amount of taxes an individual pays is minuscule. And this wasn't about "Oh I have to pay some taxes to put Birth Control on insurance, -blam!- that shit, I don't care about some other person." This is "Since companies are people now, this "person" has a religious belief against Birth Control. And my religious belief through the First Amendment is more important than anyone else's." Hobby Lobby is forcing their belief onto their employees, which in turn violates their rights too. But hey, they can just quit and try to find a job in this shithole of a job market, right?

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  • Lol. 'Forcing their beliefs'. They don't care if you get birth control. They just don't want to pay for it. - Der

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  • Edited by Gaara444: 6/30/2014 4:32:05 PM
    [quote]Hobby Lobby is forcing their belief onto their employees[/quote] When you go to work for a company, both the employee and the employer make an agreement where the employee works for the employer and receives X pay and Y services. All employees of Hobby Lobby willingly work under their employer knowing their agreement they had on their interviews and company regulations. This is just a way for employees to demand to get a recreational service for free without having their employer fire them for demanding something so ludicrous. If I went into Disney and demanded a free movie ticket every week to go with my paycheck, they would have laughed me out of the interview. I went in and discussed with my interviewer my pay and what services I would be getting with my pay, I knew exactly what I was getting into. Hobby Lobby is not forcing anything on anybody, but the ACA is forcing its beliefs on Hobby Lobby.

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  • Edited by BannedBoy: 6/30/2014 4:35:22 PM
    Because comparing movie tickets to a medication that can help women with health issues other than just keeping her from getting pregnant is a good comparison.

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  • [quote]that can help women with health issues other than just keeping her from getting pregnant is a good comparison. [/quote] Any symptom that birth control can help alleviate already has a much cheaper and higher quality medical alternative. Having acne problems? get acne medication, it's cheaper and much more effective. If you are using birth control, you are indeed using it to control birth when having sex, which makes the act entirely recreational. We don't pay for any other recreational activities, recreational sex does not get a free pass.

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  • Yes, because assumptions help prove your point better? Acne medications don't work for everyone. And a lot of patients who are on it aren't even sexually active (not that those in the company aren't sexually active). But again, assuming people who work for companies who choose to opt out on religious grounds only want it for recreational sex isn't a great argument.

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  • Acne medication does a better job than birth control ever will since the whole point of acne medication is to alleviate acne. >Want birth control >Pills sole purpose is to control birth >Side Effects have small health benefits >This means the vast majority of people use it for the small benefits You're one to talk about assumptions when you assume that a good portion of those on birth control use it for its side effects. Give me some proof over that than you can talk to me about assumptions.

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