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Why are the police not as revered as the military?

Because it's more acceptable to kill a foreigner than a fellow countrymen?
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  • I think that it's because most people don't have any experience with the military other than the little bit that the military wants us to see. The police, on the other hand, are common to see. Most of our involvement with the police involves dealing with tickets, and getting arrested, and other such irritations. It's way easier to revere the people who "defend your freedom" than the people who write speeding tickets.
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    • Edited by Sam: 6/12/2014 5:38:35 PM
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      Neither are revered by me. I respect individual people, not entire organizations who do not have to obey laws. I have seen too much police brutality and military waste to have respect for either. American police departments are also becoming increasingly militarized, and this seems to only alarm a small percentage of the population who actually have intelligence. Edit: And that picture is from El Paso County Sheriff's Department, which is the county that I live in. I can confirm that these things drive on the streets.
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      • I'd go with coolmike's reason. Though I personally respect individuals rather than any organisation they belong to as a whole. I feel that a lot of the hate the police get is totally unwarranted. Though that said, I'm not a massive fan of some procedures the UK police follow. When I see 3 men needed to restrain a 16 year old, I see something wrong.
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      • I'm not sure if I posted here yet, but anyways... Some of work the police department is probably a lot more dangerous than the military. For example, say you made a traffic stop for reckless driving. You approach the vehicle, and at this point [i]anyone[/i] can behind that wheel. That could be a psychotic murderer or an innocent elderly woman, but what's even scarier is that you never know what could happen. You can be placed into a shoot-out, be wounded or die, or you can be placed in a high risk, high-speed pursuit. Not to mention what they have to put up with; so much hate, so much disrespect, and the things they see can be traumatizing. For example, my father recalls his 27 years on the force to be hellish. He's seen the death and wounding of close friends, dark scenes of violence, participated in shoot outs, and literally had the best seat in the house to see the worst things humanity is capable of. He didn't do this job for his own financial benefit, but for the citizens of New Orleans. Furthermore, this isn't a month or couple of months of active service in the military... rather years of active duty of never knowing what could happen every single day you wake up putting that uniform on. [spoiler]Don't get me wrong, I hate getting tickets, but is it really necessary to hate the entire police force because you went 65 in a 60 lane? [/spoiler]
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      • Started a new topic: Why are the mods not as revered as Bungie employees?(1 Reply)

      • Not where I'm from they aint
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      • Probably because police get to go home to their family every night, can quit when they want, don't have to coordinate attacks, (except for swat) and soldiers don't get any of this.
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      • As a upcoming attorney let me explain A lot of cops are former military or never went to college. Corruption is a prevalent characteristic. Cops are being tasked with more responsibility and they do not like it as terrorism increased the role of state and local police is becoming more or less a job of being the scout on crime and forwarding it to the Feds or to ones local fusion center....basically a cop is the errand boy of the government now and is slowly becoming militarized to combat crime and terrorism. Now imagine you are a citizen and you see this. In a city like Boca Raton this might not be an issue...but in Miami this is an issue as the population would feel targeted. Cops in general are hated because of the reasons previously stated but most importantly because cops generally think they are above/immune to the laws of the land, and they act as such; and they get away with it because people are often ignorant of the fact and lack an understanding of law...so cops get away with behavior not tolerated at a federal level. This is why the police hate the FBI, ice, CG, ATF, and DEA because they are treated as lackies because honestly most cops are lazy and hardly conduct their jobs proficiently. They treat them this way because they are unreliable and do not share info and that's currently our intelligence problem ATM is the absence of shared info...which is why Feds have a difficult time subduing the criminals because local law enforcement hold a grudge against the Feds due to their treatment and this translate into your question as to why just generally not capable....they are better at following orders, not critical thinking or deducing intelligence.
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        Because the Military doesn't pretend they're the police. - Der
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        • Edited by K1lLL ST3AL: 6/13/2014 1:54:22 PM
          As a member of my nation's armed forces, I find the tone of your post to be disrespectful of my creed and take it as a personal attack against myself and other military personnel on this forum. Also, this post is not against terms of use because "Forum Coping" is no longer against terms of use. On Topic: Typical citizen has much more first had experience with police than with military, probably speeding tickets.
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          • Police college graduate here. Honestly it is because everyone breaks the law in some aspect. When they get caught by speeding for example it becomes the officers fault for you going 100kms an hour. Sure some officers can be rude. But given the 12 hour swing shift it does not surprise me. You deal with the same ass holes all day and then the court a different system lets these guys walk on technicalities. Oh you robbed a bank oh because the officers notes are off you are now a free man. Etc.
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          • Edited by Failure4Life: 6/13/2014 2:55:02 AM
            Depends on the police. A highway patrolman is usually disliked because they are annoying. They are duly doing their service but it usually involves make us pay a ticket. Thus they are associated with irritable duties. A SWAT officer is not unlikely to be seen in a similar class as a soldier just because of the circumstances of their job. Just like a soldier they are often in dangerous scenarios for the sake of the people. You also do not have videos of SWAT teams bullying civilians (this is of course excluding riot police). This also applies to the military. Someone in the National guard is probably less respected than a Marine because the Marine is more likely to be risking his life. Another point is that those who join the military usually do it as a last resort. Most try to live as civilians with the military as a back up plan. Police often join for respect,(that they do not get) and the power.
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            • or maybe because this is less respectable than a young and very fit soldier.
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              • Probably because people do not deal with Military Personal everyday, whereas they deal with Police officers. But I'm not really sure.
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                The Great Journey, is about to begin - 7/28/2016 11:32:38 PM

                [u]military[/u] > Has a history of going over seas and doing the impossible (D-day for example) > More have died to preserve freedom > Requires more school depending on where you go > Hardest training in the world (just check out surviving the cut) > Lives are at risk every day depending which part of the military > Often live in barracks or on the field > Meals are not that good and can change due to budget cuts [u]cops[/u] > Go home every night to a warm bed > Three square meals a day > Lives only at risk depending on what they are responding too > Often perceived as corrupt mostly by those who break the law or give the cops a reason
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              • Because they're pigs who will often abuse their power. And this is shit-tier bait, but this seems pretty typical of you.
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                • [quote]Because they are jack booted thugs.[/quote]
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                • "Wait, you radar'd me and missed the jackoff in the Silverado doing 40 over?"
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                • Personally, with me, it's a bit of the other way around. Officers up here have less of that whole corruption dealio going on that the states do. And, the shooting up in Nova Scotia hit home. Officers in general up here are quite nice, and it really sucks when they get into trouble like up in Moncton. I remember a few years ago in Alberta, four officers were killed when they went to investigate a man's property with a warrant and they were picked off by the guy with a sniper rifle one by one. Now more than ever it's hard to be a good police officer because of their bad rep and the "one bad apple effect" that is circulating around right now.
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                  • [quote]Because it's more acceptable to kill a foreigner than a fellow countrymen?[/quote] As is tradition.
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                  • In the UK the police are still held in high regard, people are fearful and respectful of them
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                    • Very easy to answer. Police choose the actions they take. A solider, on the other hand, does what he is ordered to do. [spoiler]You have a very flawed way of looking at things.[/spoiler]
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                    • Where's bootynator when you need him most?
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                    • A police officer's job is to defend his community. A soldier's job is to defend his nation. Numbers wise, nation > community Your trolling sucks.
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                    • As nations progress more socially things like speeding tickets and drugs seem more trivial in the great scheme of things. Getting pulled over for a speeding ticket and knowing that someone is getting stabbed in a back alley at that very moment really puts into perspective how horrible law enforcement's priorities are. The military is--more or less--an arm of a country's government, fueled by citizen volunteers. Patriotism plays a part in why the military is more revered, as well as the fact that they can't be monitored by citizens, since they're typically in a high-security base or in another continent.
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