I dont know what their definition of sandbox is but that beta was not it

Hell i dont know why people are complaining about this game when it has a hell of alot more content then doom! Yeah thats right doom, but get this we all loved doom back then look how far fps has come. Doom had little too no plot and the graphics were bloody terrible but we all played through that and loved it. So screw those reporters or what not destiny looks insane

Overwhelmed. Underwhelmed. Why isn't anyone ever just "Whelmed"?

[quote]- In general, the fact that Bungie wants to keep other game modes under wraps shows that they are confident in the gameplay speaking for itself. Reviews wanted more obviously -as do we- but it is comforting to know that shooting things will still be fun, even without extraneous features/modes[/quote] Definitely. I think 1:55 to 3:12 in the video above really highlights this. They're very much aware of what they've revealed hasn't shown what makes Destiny a genre-redefining experience and it's innovation from a technical standpoint, but rather it's core gameplay as a very dynamic, and most importantly (IMO), fun FPS. Im guessing they want this firmly established before moving on to the former. This is only the beginning.

I expected some teeth here, but there is only more circlejerking. Bungie hyped this game way too much, and like True Reclaimer pointed out, even lied sometimes. Explore everything you see? Nope. Thanks for these pretty corridors, Bungie! Edit: Just for reference, here are his exact words. [quote] Plus Bungie has been caught in many lies such as the whole "This is not a skybox, you can go anywhere you see without boundaries" scandal. The Tower, and everywhere else, are in fact, nothing but skyboxes. Pretty ones, but far from the open world we were promised.[/quote] Edit edit: Shit. Didn't realise how old this is, nor that it pertained to news and not the game itself. My point still stands, the game is underwhelming.

And to add another point. There are a lot of references to Borderlands going on. Here are my thoughts on that. The Borderlands story is funny, and consistent, but it never really drove me. What really stands out is the personality of the characters. The world itself felt bland and empty to me. Even when running around with 3 buddies, there was a certain amount of life missing. I think of games like Skyrim, which has no multiplayer or online, but the world feels vibrant, alive, itching for exploration. Why? Because of the developers. There are ruins... treasures worth finding, lively cities, a vast wilderness. Borderlands wild areas just felt like empty space to make the world seem bigger or as filler to make the journey from A to B longer. When I see screens of Destiny and hear about the world, I want to explore it... Ruins left to discover, uncharted territory, mystery. It reminds me of the sense I had about Skyrim before it came out. But here's the kicker... Destiny will have that sort of feel on multiple regions of multiple planets (remember, Skyrim is just one region, although it is pretty big) and it will be a shared world. There will be life, random encounters, and epic public battles mixed into the adventures of you and your fireteam. I heard Lars Bakken in an interview talking about "bubbles" of players, some you interact with, some that just pop up on the horizon. What better way to make a world feel alive, interesting, intriguing and exciting - than to have actually people (not AI) creating the sense of life to the world. I have a feeling it will be awesome. As far as game play, this looks far tighter than Borderlands, plus without a doubt my favorite FPS gameplay has always been the Halo series - and this looks to improve on that. Borderlands is fun though, very fun, even if I think it feels a bit clunky. Don't get me started on vehicle gameplay... When it comes to loot... In Borderlands there is sooo much loot, but nearly all of it is trash. You fight a great boss, and you can still get something worthless. In a game like Skyrim, you traverse ancient ruins to find that one chest... and you know whatever it is, it will be worth your time. There is a sense of earning the reward and having fun while you do it. Borderlands sort of crams loot into every nook and cranny (and toilet) so that you lose that sense of achievement/adventure. You may just turn a corner and see a random chest out in the open with a killer grenade, but you can fight through tons of difficult enemies and not get anything worth your while. I looked at WAAAAY too many gun descriptions, and did way too much comparison in that game. I probably spent as much time in menus looking at junk guns as I did using guns worth my time (before I level up and left that gun behind). In Destiny, your guns level up with you, and when you find an exotic, it becomes a part of your character, your story, you won't just chuck it one day, but as you use it - you will upgrade it. When you no longer use it, it will become a trophy on your wall, in your apartment, in the tower... :) Borderlands did a lot right... But man, Bungie knows how to create epic story moments, epic multiplayer moments they know how to create interesting characters, story and lore (I am excited to see Bungie's take on investment for myself) - I think, when it is all said and done, we won't even be comparing these two games because Destiny will be so different. It's just too cheap and easy right now to say, "Detinsy are Halo disguized as bordurlnds" I can think of a lot of similarities between two games like Skyrim and Borderlands, but they are sooo different in how they execute those similarities. Just because Destiny is an FPS and it is doing some similar things as other games, does not mean the execution will be anything close to the same.

Just think, we get to go to mars in the beta. So no more old Russia for this guardian.

Ummm... Who necro'd this?

Amen father Franklin

For the reviews that said Destiny isn't doing anything new... I think we will see new things soon. I also think many games have tried to do things Destiny will do, but they didn't mix the ingredients right. Destiny is a culmination of many things that have been done, but not necessarily together or even done well. I think when we see the final product, it will be an amazing mix of story, intrigue, atmosphere, loot seeking, challenge, adventure, PvP, crazy action, character building, and epic shared world experiences (this will be where Destiny breaks through the bar and adds some "space magic" to the FPS genre). I think we will be blown away by the action, and amazed at the shared world experiences. There is definitely something special here, which most of us in these forums believe. We still have raids, patrols, character building, item upgrading, mystery exotics, story, locations and tons more we have heard nothing or very little about. Some of that may come this week, some of that may not come until Beta or Launch. I will say... I wish we had a Beta date... It has to be July/August at this point, which I thought was too late in the beginning. (Early 2014 turned to Q3...)

4 months out and no character selection or creation screen showed besides in a 1-3 second clip in a preview?? I'm so worried that im starting to shat my pants. Last time this happened was APB......

agreed.

Well said

I agree with your title 100% and it sums up my thoughts. I read your article of course, and totally get that the media statement of "news from people April 28th!" and an 8 week countdown for 7 mins of gameplay is a drag.

[quote]With all the hype built up for today, reading those first few titles were a bit depressing. Reading the word "boring" in a title really caught me off guard. I have read through every article and will watch the remaining videos when I have time tonight, but I wanted to post something quick about why I am [u]underwhelmed but NOT upset[/u] about what we have seen and heard today. [b]Why am I underwhelmed?[/b] - Lack of new (specific) content - We're still in Old Russia - No news on PvP and other social elements - No UI screenshots (inventory specifically) - Not even a hint of the beta - Many reporters seemed let down by narrow slice they got to play - The mystery of what sets Destiny apart still eludes us [b]Why am I not worried?[/b] - Reviews are consistent in one aspect: core gameplay is absolutely solid - We continue to see new supers and foci (focuses), promising a very deep sandbox - Despite frustration with still seeing Old Russia, this leaves the vast majority of the universe untouched and ready to explore. - The game plays like Halo. This may sound like a negative thing, but remember that Halo was an incredibly fun series. If that's all they said in these reviews, I shouldn't be upset by that. - In general, the fact that Bungie wants to keep other game modes under wraps shows that they are confident in the gameplay speaking for itself. Reviews wanted more obviously -as do we- but it is comforting to know that shooting things will still be fun, even without extraneous features/modes. - Destiny looks gorgeous. - We still have over 4 months before release. We really do have a ton of info right now, its just the slow-trickle method that makes it feel as if they are withholding a ton of info from us. [i]Overall, I guess I just wanted to submit a quick, hopeful thought in the midst of the underwhelming response from reviewers and critics[/i]. Remember, the most anyone has done in Destiny is play one Strike in one location on one of the planets they have to offer. Of course we want more, and we will get more, but let us be hopeful that Bungie has created a solid FPS that is beautiful and fun to play even in it's Pre-Alpha state. Be Brave, fellow Guardians.[/quote] Just give it a week or two we might have info on character creation and others or we might have to wait till the beta.... I'm not getting the beta so YouTube is the only option But overall so far the game looks great, but remember this is only a pre alpha of the game

That 7 minutes was -blam!-ing awesome!!!! I don't know why people are bitching. This game is 4 months out with a beta in the next month or 2,we all should be excited as all hell!!!!!