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4/16/2014 2:23:55 PM
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There is no justification for a Without Cause Termination for a 10+ year employee

If an employee has been working for the company for over ten years, firing them for no reason is a total crock of shit. There is no justification for it, you must have had a reason to fire Marty, it does not make sense to fire your musical bread and butter for no reason. Maybe he made a joke about Achronos, maybe he he wasn't being PC in front of DeeJ, who knows. But you're going to have to come up with a better excuse other than "You're fired because we said so".

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  • Edited by Radical Edward: 4/16/2014 2:46:44 PM
    Time for some clarification. "Termination without cause" does NOT mean "terminated for no good reason". It also doesn't mean (or imply) that the employee was "terminated for a good reason". It is a way of saying, "we (the employer) chose to end our relationship with the employee for our own reasons". http://hhbg.ca/info-sheet.html "Terminated without cause" is a legal term that is the opposite of "Terminated FOR cause". Terminated for cause means that the employee gave the employer a reason (misconduct, violation of policy, poor performance, etc.) to sever the employment. Terminated without cause is a way of saying "we're done here, no harm, no foul, best of luck, but your services are no longer required". It does NOT imply or infer any wrongdoing or misconduct on the part of the employee. The actual and specific reasons behind the termination are between the employer and the former employee. Just like an employee can decide (at any time) to leave their job (for the almost infinite number of reasons people leave their jobs), the employer can also end the relationship. The reasons behind an employee leaving are their own and up to them as whether or not they will disclose or discuss those reasons with others. "Terminated without cause" is the employer-initiated ending of the relationship in a similar manner. The reason(s) of the termination are for the employer to know and (usually) do not make the reason public (as to respect the privacy of the former employee and to not say/do anything that would harm the former employee or their reputation). It's a tricky phrase, easily misunderstood and misinterpreted. But in an "at will" or a "right to work" State, when the employer decides that the mutual relationship is at an end, it is the "best" term to use when describing the event. [quote]But you're going to have to come up with a better excuse other than "You're fired because we said so".[/quote] Just as you wouldn't want a former employer discussing the details and reasons for your termination with others, Marty has every right to expect that the details of his recent departure to be between Bungie and him. If he wants to discuss the matter in public? That is his call. But no 3rd party, no matter how passionate or involved they believe themselves to be, has any right to intrude on the private conversations between two consenting parties.

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