Oh look, more shootings happening in strict gun-control states/areas.
And ban malls
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[url=http://www.demandaction.org/blog/2013-02-update-comprehensive-study-of-mass-shootings-by-mayo]Only 23% of all mass shootings in the past four years occurred in "gun free zones"[/url]. I'll also refer you to the [url=https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/images/analysis-of-recent-mass-shootings.pdf]PDF[/url] on that page which lists every incident so you can check them for yourself before you decide to throw around accusations of bias.
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Get a better source please. I stopped reading when it proved it was stupid by saying the navy yard shooting was "not gun free". Because "the guards had guns". It is a gun free zone, only guards are allowed to carry them. But guards and police can carry guns almost anywhere, so no where is a "gun free zone" by your definition. Come back when you have a valid source.
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Edited by dazarobbo: 11/5/2013 11:29:18 PM[quote]so no where is a "gun free zone" by your definition[/quote]That's odd, because I don't see my "definition" anywhere. Furthermore, in the incident you're referring to, there were people who had firearms (the armed guards) who still failed to protect themselves and others (he even took the guards' guns). The idea that they're some magic bullet (pardon the pun) against shooters, as the pro-gun propaganda machine likes to pump out (ie. La Pierre and his good guy/bad guy gun mantra), is ludicrous. It doesn't work. We've seen it before in Columbine when the cops/guards couldn't stop them, just as they couldn't here. I can even point you to [url=http://alerrt.org/files/research/ActiveShooterEvents.pdf]this study[/url] of incidents between 2000-2010 that shows that in only 3 out of the 84 active shooter events did the victims stop a shooting by shooting the perpetrator before police arrived (Figure 5).
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And in that study of your, a huge percentage was below that of which is qualified as a "mass shooting". And furthermore it does matter, because you provided a false source about your percentage that happened in a gun free zone. Meaning you can't provide a reliable true source.
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[quote]And in that study of your, a huge percentage was below that of which is qualified as a "mass shooting".[/quote]Nope. Look at the [url=https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/images/massshootingdata.xlsx]spreadsheet[/url] of data used. All incidents had at least four deaths. [quote]And furthermore it does matter, because you provided a false source about your percentage that happened in a gun free zone. Meaning you can't provide a reliable true source.[/quote]Unless you have a different interpretation of what that means, no, I didn't.
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And that spread sheet, did not come from [quote][/quote] [url=http://alerrt.org/files/research/ActiveShooterEvents.pdf]this study[/url] Try again. [quote]Unless you have a different interpretation of what that means, no, I didn't.[/quote] Yes, a gun free zone is where civilians cannot carry guns. And your "proof" counted places that civilians cannot carry guns as a none gun free zone. So yea, you are wrong.
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1. The spreadsheet was in reference to the first one I linked, not the second. 2. [quote]Yes, a gun free zone is where civilians cannot carry guns.[/quote]...which is your own idea of what the term means.
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And iv already showed why the first link is bogus. So provide me with a better source. And your twisting the definitions to meet your own beliefs. That's not how it works. By your definition no place is a gun free zone, because cops and military almost always have the right to carry guns with them. Come back with a good source and we can talk
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[quote]And iv already showed why the first link is bogus. So provide me with a better source.[/quote]No you haven't, because you're using your own idea of what "gun free zone" means. [quote]And your twisting the definitions to meet your own beliefs. That's not how it works.[/quote]Once again, where is my "definition"? Where have I defined it? I'm using what the study found, and in their own words. I haven't twisted anything at all. [quote]By your definition no place is a gun free zone, because cops and military almost always have the right to carry guns with them.[/quote]lolwut? Go back to what you said earlier about the Navy yard shooting. They had guards employed there, not cops. You even said it yourself.
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The stupidity is to much to handle. This is just going in circles.
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How mature. I wondered when you were going to crack. Looks like we're done here.
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Yes I'm done here listening to the stupidity because you actually think you proved something.
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Me? No. Others? Yes. Hence the links.
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>mayors against illegal guns So you tell me not to throw around accusations of biased but post information that's endorsed by a biased organization? What a -blam!-ing joke.
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Post back when you finally decide to post some kind of refutation of the incidents or stats.
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why is there a gun control debate centered around an incident where the guy stole his gun and then anhero'd?
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Because they grab at what they can get
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No no no no no no no. Dont start this sh*t not here. This is a game forum.
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Actually this is [spoiler]#OffTopic[/spoiler] Huehuehuehuehuehue
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Nobody seems to notice the thing that ties all these shootings together. The Weapon.
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[quote]Nobody seems to notice the thing that ties all these shootings together. The Weapon.[/quote] Actually a lot of things tie these recent shootings together. The gunman is mentally ill, occurred in "gun-free zones" in states with strict gun control, and the weapon doesn't belong to the shooter. C'mon people if we're going to blame one thing, why not blame the rest too?
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Edited by IchEsseKinder: 11/5/2013 12:48:19 PMNobody seems to notice the thing that ties all these shootings together The Gun-Free Zones and Strict-Gun Controlled States Now, how about you move along and go back to and continue to get butt--blam!-ed by Queen Elizabeth wearing a strap-on and Piers Morgan shoving his penis down your throat, k?
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Britain is pretty much a gun free country and we rarely get shootings. Whats the difference I wonder? Oh yea gun control, it's ok saying "the states the shootings take place in have gun control" the problem is it's not a country wide thing which makes it much easier for the statistics to be falsified in order to say "gun control doesn't work". If an immigrant comes over to the UK and shoots somebody, does that mean gun control doesn't work? Nope.
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[quote]Britain is pretty much a gun free country and we rarely get shootings.[/quote] Maybe because your equivalent to the Constitution doesn't give the right to bear arms nor shall it be infringed? And as of that, your pathetic government was able to confiscate and ban/heavily restrict the consumer market for firearms. But I do remember you posting an article saying criminals are using antique guns which shows that criminals will do anything to inflict harm on the innocent people. Oh, and you may rarely get shootings but that has been replaced with a huge increase of crime involving knives to which people are wanting Parliament to restrict large kitchen knives.
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Yet your country has sky high violent assault crimes and knife crimes.