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8/25/2013 3:21:30 PM
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multiculturalism will be the death of europe.
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  • [quote]multiculturalism will be the death of europe.[/quote] In order for Humanity to reach the concept of a Type 1 civilization, yes. Nations and nationalism would need to "die". Continents (as social groupings/constructs, not as geographical locations) such as Europe, Asia and the Americas would need to "die". Cultures and language would not necessarily need to "die", but they would need to integrate and interact without any benefit or punishment for someone having a particular cultural or linguistic heritage. The people of a Type 1 (Planetary) civilization would have to let go of the security, comfort, identity and reassurance that we all (to one extent or another) get from self-identifying as being a particular nationality, continentality, race, religion, culture, etc.. As the Professor explains, there are currently two main pressures at work in current society. Those that are moving and working towards a global Type 1 civilization and those who are resisting such change to what they currently know and live with.

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  • Edited by lonepaul2441: 8/25/2013 3:25:23 PM
    I would love to know how that makes sense? European nations built Empires and forced multiculturalism on themselves. The only problem we have is immigration, not multiculturalism itself. Keep in mind if it was a problem why have Open borders across all of Europe?

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  • [quote] The only problem we have is immigration, not multiculturalism itself.[/quote] They're both of the same beasts. Many of those who the European Elites (Not the people) are giving a free pass to waltz right in are from heavily religious conservative countries (Muslims) who downright refuse to assimilate into the culture that is trying to take them in. I believe that as of right now London is about half-white! The scale of white flight that is going on over there is startling, and as someone who admires the accomplishments of the many European societies it deeply saddens me.

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  • I live in London, and its not half white.

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  • http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9737393/Census-2011-fewer-than-half-of-people-living-in-London-are-white.html

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  • What's wrong with that?

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  • Edited by lonepaul2441: 8/25/2013 3:37:16 PM
    I put it down to ignorance. Immigration is a good thing for the nation that receives them but all you hear is "They are taking our jobs" and "They are on benefits without expecting to work". Now don't get me wrong those pricks exist and those business provide the jobs to foreigners because it's cheaper labour, that isn't the fault of the immigrant. (The work part). However this country was rebuilt after WW2 with the help of mass immigration form the colonies while Brits left to go Australia for a new life. Germany's population is expected to decrease to 50 million people in 40 years while France and the UK are expected to grow to 80 million. Immigration is needed, multiculturalism is needed, our entire society, our civilization was built on it, otherwise we would still be small tribes. Also can you blame us for getting pissy at those who to adapt to our society and want to destroy it?

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  • [quote] Immigration is needed, multiculturalism is needed, our entire society, our civilization was built on it, otherwise we would still be small tribes.[/quote] For the US, yes, but for the UK or France or Germany? No. They were built by the respective people of their nations over a course of centuries. This multi-culti stuff is just destroying once great cultures and further alienating the indigenous people. And it all started just so that certain political factions could just use the waves of mostly working class immigrints for votes to maintain their own personal power. Not once did they ask the people, they simply decided and it was done. I want you to take a look at this colored video of a 1927 London: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgxki8_R968 Now compare that London to today's London, where parts of the city look like Pakistan. In my opinion it's an injustice that the Euros must put up with this, and if they happen to say something against multi-culti they're immediately labeled racists... and I thought we had it bad in the States... [quote]Also can you blame us for getting pissy at those who to adapt to our society and want to destroy it?[/quote]Oh of course not, I completely agree with them! :D

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  • Heres the problem. We need to be multicultural for the human race to survive, yet if we don't accept immigration and multiculturalism then Humanity is doomed to fail. The only way it can work is if the culture and traditions of the original inhabitants stay but also improved by others. The UK is happy to accept immigrants who help improve the country and allow them to practice their own traditions and mix the cultures to enrich our own. The problem is when people come here and stamp all over it like saying "Saying Merry Christmas offends me" and now we need to say Happy Holidays. That's a mixture of immigrants being a problem and political correctness from our own government. All we need to do is take a stand and tell them to piss off, the EU blocks most deportations because it's against the Human rights of the person. However Cameron is trying to change the Human Rights so we can start deporting. It's unfortunate but we can't live in the past if we expect to reach the future, everybody will be half-cast in the future so racism might not exist, no nation states in Space only planets with names.

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  • Listen, I agree that we must be tolerant of other peoples and I also agree with you on those who aren't assimilating are a big problem. But the idea of multi-culti as of right now, according to your government, is to just let mass amounts of people from completely different societies who have nothing in common with yours to barge right in, and if you disagree with it well then you're a bigot. Because it will all be okay because DIVERSITY is our greatest strength, no matter WHAT! (Even if the newcomers refuse to assimilate....) That I have a problem with. Imagine if a bunch of westerners decided to go to one of their countries... It wouldn't work out.

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    'White Flight' Wow. I only mute people for spamming but for you I'll make an exception. The sheer idiocy you have expressed in the last few posts I've seen is just. Wow.

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  • lmao, don't like it when someone says things you don't agree with? okay, seal yourself up in your own little bubble.

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