originally posted in:Secular Sevens
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There are many of us who believe homosexuality is wrong, and it is defined by Yahweh in the Bible as a sin. There are also others who find homosexuality abhorrent, and still others find it disgusting. Through these lends, homosexuality is viewed as a negative in general, resulting in the current use of "gay", etc. You cannot change this with a wall of text on a gaming forum, it's just not gonna happen. In fact, it never will, but if you, and by extension, your community, continue to be offended by every insult, every attack, verbal or physical, and take those actions as a vendetta against the entirety of your being, and everything you have, or will, believe, then you won't get anywhere anyway. The fact is, this is real life. It's not fair, ever. At some point, you're just going to have to take it, and get over it. Welcome to the real world™.
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If your point is that bigotry exists in the world and most likely always will, then I agree. If you are arguing, however, that since that is the case we should give in to it, then I must disagree wholeheartedly. Just because something may never be eradicated does not mean we should abandon our efforts to do so. If we did, it would simply get worse.
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Give up? No. Deal with it? Yes. You can't win every fight, sometimes you're just going to have to take it, and live to fight another day.
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I'm not sure how exactly you think that sentiment applies to that situation, since I lose nothing by participating in this thread.
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Yes, because nobody has ever been able to stand up to the bigotry of the religious to advocate social change for civil rigths. </sarcasm>
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[quote]Civil rights[/quote] I've never understood how this was a civil rights issue. Were homosexuals made to give up their seat on a bus to a straight person? Forced to use a separate drinking fountain, or bathrooms? Have they been kept from voting, or exercising any other basic constitutional right? [spoiler]No[/spoiler] But apparently, if they want access to an institution reserved for a straight couple, it's a civil rights crusade on par with the [b]real[/b] Civil Rights crusade lead by MLK, among others?
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[quote]Were homosexuals made to give up their seat on a bus to a straight person?[/quote] Oddly enough, I just saw [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/03/gay-couple-back-of-the-bus_n_3700584.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices]this story[/url] today. Also: [quote]This is not the only instance of discrimination in recent weeks. A gay teacher who taught at a California Catholic school for 17 years was fired after he legally married his partner in July. Last week, it was revealed that law enforcement in Baton Rouge has allegedly been targeting and arresting adult gay males under an invalid, unconstitutional anti-sodomy law. Two Oregon lesbians claimed they were recently kicked out of a cab on the side of freeway after the driver saw them holding hands and kissing in his car. [/quote] To say that gays don't have their civil rights violated is simply absurd...and I haven't even brought up marriage yet.
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And to clear up your misconception in the accidental tangent, marriage equality is in fact a civil rights issue. To deny it is to reveal your willful ignorance, bigotry, or both.
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Pardon my laziness, it's drunk, I'm late, and I used the wrog word. What I was going for in that post was masterfully crafted by my man baph, in that simply getting over institutionalized bigotry is not acceptable.