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7/29/2013 9:36:19 PM
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Here's proof for all you idiots that the homosexuals are persecuted more than transgender people.
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  • >being this retarded

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  • What does that have to do with anything

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  • Haha what? Do you actually know anything about the transgender community? [url=http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/magazine/90519/transgender-civil-rights-gay-lesbian-lgbtq#]>>>[/url] First of all, let's be very clear. An anecdote is not a "proof" of anything and believing so is a fallacy by definition. On top of that, comparing one persecuted groups' struggles to another's is just straight up harmful to everyone. The simple fact is that gay, lesbian, transgendered, intersex, and other non-cisgendered non-straight groups don't have equal rights to the straight white guy in first world countries. In many cases, all of the above face violence from hateful people in society. To even make it a competition by making that comment is a spit in the face of every person who has ever been hurt for being different. LGB people are making strides towards equality while the other groups falling under the T+ part of the movement sit in the background and "wait their turn". Please educate yourself on social justice before speaking on matters you know nothing about.

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  • Would you like to link me to statistics/cases where transgendered individuals have been killed more than homosexuals? Otherwise take your pseudo intellectual argument and shove it up your ass. [quote]To even make it a competition by making that comment is a spit in the face of every person who has ever been hurt for being different.[/quote] >Implying I'm making it a competition. I'm saying this group isn't as discriminated against as other groups. I've faced racism all my life, and I can tell you stories all day about it. Yet, I don't contact a news agency and bitch and complain. Why? Because I have dignity. I don't feel a large amount of pity for people that [u]willingly[/u] do something to that causes them to be discriminated against. Racism and homophobia are a higher priority. If you disagree, fine, but you're wrong.

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  • [quote]Would you like to link me to statistics/cases where transgendered individuals have been killed more than homosexuals?[/quote] [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/hate-violence-report-2012_n_3390090.html]I'd love to.[/url] This is not even taking into account that trans folks make up .3% of the U.S. population while gays, lesbians, and bisexuals make up 5%. Are pseudo intellectual arguments usually backed up by statistics? [quote]I'm saying this group isn't as discriminated against as other groups. I've faced racism all my life, and I can tell you stories all day about it.[/quote] Yes, and by making it a competition, which is exactly what you are doing (baww you guys don't have it as bad) you spit in the face of everyone who has ever been hurt for being different, as I already said. I'm very sorry about you facing discrimination, and I promise that I'm fighting just as hard against that as I am against any kind of discrimination, but claiming that you're somehow an expert on what happens to trans people because you're a racial minority is frankly stupid. Try a different tactic next time. [quote]I don't feel a large amount of pity for people that willingly do something to that causes them to be discriminated against. Racism and homophobia are a higher priority. If you disagree, fine, but you're wrong.[/quote] I have no idea what this means. Are you claiming that people choose their gender identity? If so, I'll warn you in advance that the scientific data lines up, once again, on my side. I'd love for you to explain how I'm wrong. So far your entire argument has been constructed of nothing but uneducated assumptions, logical fallacies, and harmful and despicable undermining of trans suffering around the world. Perhaps you can regroup and not look like such a fool in your next post, but I'm going to be honest, I'm not betting on it.

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  • [quote]I have no idea what this means.[/quote] It means I don't feel pity for those who go through surgery to look like a man/woman. They bring that upon themselves. [quote]but claiming that you're somehow an expert on what happens to trans people because you're a racial minority is frankly stupid.[/quote] Never claimed I was an expert on anything. Not sure where you got that from, but you're jumping to conclusions and making assumptions. [quote]Perhaps you can regroup and not look like such a fool[/quote] It's only a matter of time before you fags get personal. I have no respect for arrogant people like you, or pity for transgender people. Deal with it or mute me if you like, but I'm not going to have a discussion with someone so deluded.

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  • It's amazing how confident halfwits are in their ignorance. You made an objectively false claim, I informed you that you were incorrect, and then you resorted to "well it doesn't matter if they're attacked anyway because they bring it on themselves" while admitting to knowing absolutely nothing about gender identity and the biology behind it. Then, instead of giving any actual argument, you respond like a 12 year old by using a gay slur, harming the group you're supposedly defending. I would be lying if I said I didn't feel complimented by the fact that I didn't have your respect. I figure I'd be doing something wrong if I was respected by uneducated pieces of shit. I suggest that you educate yourself on matters before giving opinions on them, unless you want to continue looking like a god damned buffoon in public in the future. I can't say I wasn't entertained by effortlessly shitting down your esophagus, but [quote]mute me if you like[/quote] this is the only thing you've given a good argument for so far. So I cede you that point.

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  • [quote]looking like a god damned buffoon in [u]public[/u][/quote] You spend so much time on this website you consider this obscure forum as if it were a public place. lol

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  • Continue to be a slacktivist, you're doing an excellent job.

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  • This was gold, thank you challenger.

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  • Holy shit, you're retarded.

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  • Oh, really? Would you like to prove me wrong? Or are you going to resort to childish name calling?

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  • That's his usual tactic.

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